That said, I bought my multiple year pass for $190 to all parks and resorts online. How much is a year fee for all ViC resorts combined?

 

Change to drive mode nanna once the gauge gets to 3/4 gone (which is actually 1/2 gone) & you’ll get the full 550km out of the tank.

Ours is 05 I think, only use 91 ish fuel in it.

 

$780 from memory.

 

Earlybird is around $600 (or thereabouts)

 

Does that cover all the resorts?

 

Yep, that's an all resort parking and access pass.

I didn't get one, or look at it too hard, but the Falls Creek link for the earlybird says $556: https://www.fallscreek.com.au/allresorts/

 

I could be supremely optimistic and hope that the new orgssnidation of resort management boards might lead to a saner approach to multi-resort entry passes.

 

We can live in hope.

 

That's wild! The NSW All Parks 2 year pass that we buy is only $335.

 

it's bloody expensive, but not a rort.

the vic resort management organisations have to be self-funding. they charge what they need to cover their costs, not make a profit. you can argue that they are inefficient or do stuff that isn't necessary, but it is not a rort

 

Resort, RMS, NPWS

 

Thredbo runs its own water, roads, rubbish, sewerage.
Perisher's sewerage is paid for out of park fees (lucky Thredbo! its customers pay for Perisher's poo!).
Thredbo makes money through tickets, food, drinks, hire, and subleasing. All properties in Thredbo pay a sublease fee to Thredbo's head company (roughly similar to rates) based on bed numbers in the premises.

 

That doesn’t add up. How can Vic justify that price?

I recall a number of years back NSW increased the entry fee for Alpine parks quite significantly but it’s still pretty affordable.

 

VIC price is robbery. I'd probably consider more VIC skiing if the entry thing was better.

 

Vic national parks are free. In some you might have to parking.

It's the resorts that cost. They are not part of national parks, except Buffalo (and Donna Buang) IIRC. They may be enclosed by national park but they are excised from the parks.

 

Swings and roundabouts hey

 

Not robbery. Justification is that this is what it takes to fund the operation of the resorts without government subsidy (other than the odd special purpose grant).

I suspect that the beneficiaries are the lift companies. They don't have to fund the resort operations to the same extent as NSW but can get away with charging the same as NSW for lift tickets.

Also worth noting that NSW parks charge entry all year. For regular skiers that is probably irrelevant because you have an annual pass. However it must still be a significant contributor to revenue.

 

Kozzie NP charges (by far) the most, but its charge varies seasonally.

 

Don't have to worry if you get up early.

 

If you have a go, you’ll get a park

 

It's that bad up there that people are sleeping in thier cars for fear of losing a parking spot.

 

I'd say 8 will be fine.

 

But 0730 to be sure. The problem of recent weekends has been snow on the road and chain fitting turning a 25min trip into an hour long trip. Leaving jindy at 700 and struggling to make first lifts.

 

They don’t
There is
It just seems to add time, mainly because you have to stop and you have to drive at 25kmh not 60 or 80.

 

There will be no chain fitting Fri, Saturday... Maybe Sunday.
So no conga line traffic, plus more parks in the day park.

 

An with no heavy snow all the overnight folks can leave more easily.

 

Can confirm. Thredbo is closed now anyway

#perisherisbetter

 

Alpine way is closed at Tom groggin between Thredbo and Khancoban, so if you’re planning to come through that way you’ll hit a road block.

 

Didn’t it reopen?

 

If it has it must have been this week. I went down that way Sunday and it was closed.

 

It's open?
Reduced speed. One lane

 

Open according to live traffic.

 

The thing is, Vic national parks charge a lot for camping (last time I checked). E.g. Catani campground at Buffalo being $60 dollars a night for a spot. Whereas, NSW camping is often free, once you're through the park gates. I still think NSW is far ahead.

Island Bend & the Diggings campgrounds are the biggest bargains in Australian skiing (which is saying something, not too many actual bargains around) $190 annually for unlimited camping 15 minutes away from Perisher or Thredbo. Which is why the Diggings is having overcrowding and bad behaviour problems now. Island Bend seems to avoid those issues probably because it's a bit more isolated and a bit more bush.

 

I heard it opened Monday afternoon

 

I wouldn’t say over crowded, still only 1/3 of what is there during Easter holidays.

I’m sorry about my bad behaviour but it is who I am.

 

All the perisher people make diggings feel like mt druitt bcf carpark.

 

It's BCF'ing fun?