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Question Tokyo in a day

Discussion in 'Japan' started by dmz, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. Sandy

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    Kapabashi Dori (kitchen ware area)
     
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    Yes!
     
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    I think kids would love a beach in the room ;)
     
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    Cheers. I might just do that next year, i'm in the market for a fly rod and reel.
     
  5. dmz

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    OK. So shopping is not on the agenda. I dont need anything.
     
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    Not even accurate plastic meals? Rare Godzilla action figures? I take back what I said about shopping in Tokyo.
     
  7. Sandy

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    If you want Anime & all sorts of action figures, etc, go to Nakano Broadway for the one stop shop.
     
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    Kanda (ski shop area) ......has shops with ski gear on 1 floor in small shops to 4 floors in the biggies.
    You should go there if your a snow enthusiast, but not if you only have one day in Tokyo.
     
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  9. LMB

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    I stocked up on bento bits and pieces when the kids were younger. Stuff they charge a premium for here, but not there.
     
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    Definitely have to go to out.restaurant cause they have the best music :)
     
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    Recommendations for one of the best sushi restaurants in Tokyo? One that's not hideously expensive and preferably quietish.
     
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    Try to eat at lunch. Bargains for Michelin hatted restaurants.

    Good sushi for dinner can be $$$
     
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    OK any other suggestions for dinner?
     
  14. Sandy

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    35 Steps Shibuya. Opens at 5pm, need to book.
     
  15. dmz

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    Thanks - Looks good. Im assuming that if you ring to book they understand English? They dont seem to have a website.
     
  16. dmz

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    Re Dinner suggestions ..I have none sorry. The best meals i've had in tokyo have been in low key places like Yurakucho.
     
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  18. Sandy

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    They speak English
     
  19. dmz

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    How do people say goodbye in Japanese? Is it Sayonara or something else?
     
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    Last time I went to Ginza, I dropped in at Itoya, the biggest stationery shop in Japan and it's like a stationery theme park. There were a lot of tourists from abroad too, and I heard Japanese stationery are popular among foreigners these days.
     
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    It depends on the relationship. I mean, Sayonara sounds formal and polite, but it sounds like you'll never meet him / her again too if you say it to friends. If a girlfriend says "Sayonara" to her boyfriend, it sounds like "break up". Mata = again, and we often say "Matane" = "See you again / See ya" between friends. You are not a native Japanese speaker, so I think Sayonara is ok in all cases.
     
  23. dmz

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    Thanks - Also, is there a general 'Hello'? I've used o-haiyo-mas for good morning, konichiwa for good afternoon and kon-bon-wa for good evening.
     
  24. Sandy

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    Honestly, most younger Japanese people I hear just say "Bye Bye".
     
  25. Sandy

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    "ohaiyo gozaimasu" for good morning, but "ohaiyo" would probably do. At work, most people say " 'zaimaas", which is what I tend to say.
    Konichiwa is a good all day one.
     
  26. dmz

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    Thanks - zaimaas it is. And do they add please when asking for something? And whats the bit after arigato that turns it into thank you very much?
     
  27. Sandy

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    Gozaimaisu

    Use "Ohaiyo" for good morning.
    It's a bit like this:
    - Ohaiyo gozamasu = Good Morning
    - Ohaiyo = 'morning
    - 'zaimaas = hey
     
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    Events & festivals are held at Yoyogi Park every weekend. This weekend, Akita Prefecture Festival and Oedo Kotto-Ichi were held. Oedo Kotto-Ichi is one of the biggest antique markets in Japan. Yoyogi Park is walking distance from Meiji Shrine. Oedo Kotto-Ichi is held at Yoyogi Park next month as well.

    About Oedo Kotto-Ichi
    https://www.antique-market.jp/english/
     
  29. Sandy

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    I think you're referring to the Oedo antique market at the Tokyo International forum(not in Yoyogi Park), just near Yurakucho station. It says it's the biggest antique market in Japan, but there's no way that it is. It's a good market, although it's not as cheap as others, because it is central and well known to foreigners.

    The Yamato Market is way bigger, biggest in the Kanto plain area. Here's a complete list of Tokyo antique markets:
    http://yumemakura.travel.coocan.jp/Antique.html
     
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    Zaimaas, I have never used it. I think recent teenagers use it, though. Your kids use it?. Now I feel I've got old, I think I'm still very young compared to most people on this forum, though:p.
     
  31. Sandy

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    Actually, it's Japanese salarymen who use it!!! ;)
     
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    Yep. I have never been to the Yamato Market, though.
     
  33. LMB

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    What about ‘yo’ short for ohaiyo? Or was it just morning lift line greeting LOL

    Asking for something as in ordering?

    Hitotsu (one) Kirin (beer brand) o Kudasai (please).

    Futatsu (two) tansan mizu (sparkling waters) onegaishimasu.

    Or point to a picture to select.
    Kore o Kudasai (This please).

    The simple version is both kudasai and onegaishimasu (don’t say the u) mean please in this context. It’s more complex than that, but they’ll both work. Onegaishimasu is more formal so I tend to fall back on that almost all the time. Except for in situations like asking someone to wait “chotto mate kudasai” when onegaishimasu wouldn’t work.

    Hope that helps :thumbs:
     
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    Thanks - kudasai is easier to remember - Im still trying to remember Eigo Hanasemasu ka which I think Ill need alot...
     
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    You don't need to remember "Eigo Hanasemasu ka?". You just need to say "English?". Then the Japanese person will 99% understand you are asking if he / she can speak English or not. Westerners speaking Japanese surely makes majority of Japanese people feel a bit happier because Japanese is a local language only spoken in Japan but Westerners are trying to respect Japanese culture by speaking Japanese.

    If I were you, I would try to memorize Japanese compliment words such as

    "Oishii desune" = (It's) yummy / delicious!.
    "Kawaii desune" = (You are / It's) cute!.

    Adding "Totemo" = very, so "Totemo oishii desune!" =It's very yummy / delicious". You can omit desune / desu.

    Using Japanese compliment words will make local Japanese people smile, and you smile too. Smile / Happy circulation;)
     
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    Thanks - I do try to get some words in and really appreciate info from those who actually live there. If I try to get phrases from google searches they tend to be as accurate as the Monty Python Hungarian phrasebook. (which reminds me - I should find out how to say 'My hovercraft is full of eels' in Japanese :))
     
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    I thought 'ichi' was 'one'. Then I did a search for Japanese numbering and it did my head in :)
     
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    This opens up a whollleee different topic on the confusing Japanese numbering and counting systems haha
     
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    If a Japanese person tries to speak in English for you, you should say

    Arigatou (gozaimasu), Eigo, totemo jouzu desune!

    Eigo = English, totemo =very, jouzu = good at, so it means "You are very good at English!". And it will make 99% Japanese people feel happy and he / she will smile and you'll smile too;)
     
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    when I speak to a japanese person I haven't met before, I usually say:

    Gomenasai, watashi wa nihon go tottemo heta desu.

    And sometimes I add: watashi wa baka gaijin.

    And they almost always reply in English telling me , no your Japanese is really good.
     
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    I printed off two A4 sheets of very small type charting the different numbering and descriptors used for flat things and round things etc etc. - blew my mind! I’ll never get it!

    My biggest problem is that I can quickly get my point across using body language, gesture etc thanks to being a sign language interpreter, which means I think visually and am not inhibited in using my body to communicate. It’s too easy which makes it an effort to practice using Japanese, especially as I get “stage fright” and forget all the words when I need them.

    I TRY to use Japanese where I can, but it’s really a trap because you rehearse the phrases you need to pick up your hire car and they respond in fluent Japanese complimenting your fluency and then you just stand there saying “ahhh, moichido itte Kudasai....yukkuri :oops:“ and end up apologising in English that you really only know a very limited amount of Japanese LOL
     
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    English has just numbers.
    Japan has numbers. And number of things. And number of things, depending on shape.... or size. Or if it's people, animals, cars, minutes.....

    For food or drinks, it's:
    1 beer = Hitotsu
    2 beers = Futasu
    3 beers = Mitsu

    Small animals, you actually us the counting number, using "biki" for small animals:
    two dogs = ni-biki no inu (2 counts of dog)
    three cats =san-biki no neko (3 counts of cat)
     
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    Careful with pronunciation of romaji... don't forget that "desu" is pronounced "dess" so "desu ne" => dess ne.
    Same with "masu" => mass "beeru" => beer

    I'll find myself saying a lot of "ii-e wakarimasen", "nama beeru kudasai" , "nomi hodai" and a lot less of "hai wakarimashita" soon...
     
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    I've noticed that they seem to drop the 'u' alot. At least its not as bad as French where nearly 75% of all letters in every word are dropped :)
     
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    This champagne drinker got very used to starting every meal with “Toriaezu Nama onegaishimasu” - that cultural draft beer to start a meal. LOL
     
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    Speaking of pronunciation, Japanese pronunciation is quite easy. So you don't need to worry at all. Japanese people will understand your Japanese. The simplicity of Japanese pronunciation makes it very difficult for Japanese people to speak foreign languages. Japanese language has a lot smaller number of vowels and consonants than most other languages, so they can't differentiate B & V, L & R, Shi & Si, and many others.

    My ski group consist of native Japanese speakers and native English speakers. A few years ago, we were often talking about the US presidential election. But some of us kept saying "The US presidential eRection"o_O. In Japan, English is used for dog commands. But a friend of mine keeps saying to her dog "Shit down:crap:", I know she is trying to say "Sit down"LOL
     
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    Hirarious!
     
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    I've met many Japanese people who try to say Qantas, but because there is no Q in the Japanese language, they pronounce it Kantas... I can't recall how many times I tried to explain to them what they are saying is a pretty harsh rude word in English
    LOL
     
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