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Question Touring tents ?

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Kelly van den Berg, May 12, 2019.

  1. Kelly van den Berg

    Kelly van den Berg First Runs

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    Hi peeps
    I’m looking for a quality 1P 4 seasons tent for splitboard touring. I currently have a Mont Epoch 2P which is great for bigger trips but the weight is a killer for me. Currently looking at the MSR Access, Wilderness Equipt Space 1 winter or WE Second Arrow.

    Like I said weight is a big consideration but not compromising on HH esp on floor.

    Any feedback on these tents or ideas for others would be awesome.

    Thanks in advance
    K
     
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  2. GS

    GS A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’m very happy with the Hilleberg Soulo. Not the lightest 1P tent but worth the slight overhead. Freestanding as well
     
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  3. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The pre-season has formally begun - the tent thread for the year....
     
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  4. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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  5. Moondog55

    Moondog55 One of Us

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    I still use a Macpac Minaret for solo use but I do wish the vestibule area was larger, I like space so if I was buying a new solo tent I would look to those with large vestibule space and I have I have looked at the MSR Access myself.
     
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  6. Team Weasel

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    If money is no object (but few reviews):

    https://locusgear.com/items/djedi-dcf-event-dome/?lang=en

    I have a Soulo. Love it in all conditions. Condensation is not too bad given its size. No weather conditions have ever felt too much. It is on the heavier side though (2.45kg on my scales).

    I'd look at the Akto. Bit lighter (1.7kg). Not a dome or freestanding, but Hilleberg make tents that last. If I ever need a new single person tent, it will be this:

    https://www.wildearth.com.au/buy/hilleberg-akto-1-person-4-season-mountain-hiking-t/13811

    I also use a Mountain Hardware Direkt 2. Only 1.42kg for the tent in its lightest version. Can add tyvek for a footprint and an optional vestibule. Really nice single wall tent with lots of head room. Don't think it's available anymore though. You can see all its features in this photo from last year:



    Have tried the tarp shelter option, and not a fan. The stuff around factor is high (digging out, using ski poles for the structure, freeze cycle trapping your tent, etc), and given that you're splitboarding, you probably don't need more stuffing around in your life.

    In summary, I'd go Akto for the weight, or Soulo if you want a bit more weather resistance.
     
  7. zapruda

    zapruda One of Us

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    You are unlikely to find a stronger tent for the weight and price of the Soulo. It is rock solid and limpet like. It doesn't move in even the most horrible winds, and snow isn't a bother at all. You could stand of top of it and it would stay up.

    It is really easy to pitch and the self supported vestibule is a nice feature. There are no long pole sleeves to fiddle with and all the hardware is burly and well thought out.

    Ventilation isn't great. It doesn't have any flow through to help move air and moisture out of the tent. Most tents suffer wet insides in our humid winter conditions anyway. Its also heavy at 2.2kg but in my opinion it is worth the weight if you are using this in horrible weather above the trees.

    It isn't the most spacious tent and if you are over 6'2" you will most likely be touching the head and foot ends when you are on a mat and using a winter bag.

    I love this tent. I sleep well in it when the weather is coming down because I know it can take it.

    Let me know if you have any questions.
     
  8. POW_hungry

    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah, have considered the Soulo in the past but at 6'5" I really can't accept touching the tent wall toe & head, which is a real bugger for me.
     
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  9. GS

    GS A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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  10. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Have a look at the Rab Latok Mountain 2. Its made with 3 layer E vent. 4 pounds 1 ounce.
     
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  11. Moondog55

    Moondog55 One of Us

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    Tall people have real trouble, I have trouble and I'm only 186.
     
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  12. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    If i were to buy another tent this would be it.
     
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  13. rols

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    What are other tall people using?
     
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    crackson A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    The foetal position.
     
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  15. Team Weasel

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    Very nice - kinda like the new Black Diamond Distance but betterer. Unfortunately both of them are 3 season use. A beefier inner option for the Hyperlite would be nice.
     
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    hpsauce A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    +1 for the Minaret. Or similar design at least.....
    Ive beaten mine up for about 17 years. Its tired now.....but still absolutely fine.
    One of the reasons I keep using it, is cause I haven't spotted what I would consider a substantial upgrade (not one worth dropping big coin on anyway)
    • Its a double skin tent at 2.4kgs. AND it fits 2 people. Has super duper hydrostatic head ratings. That is class leading and matched or beaten only by Hilleberg and similarly posh tents.
    • I guess it is $300-$500 less than similarly specced Hillberg tent.
    • Its a pitch inner/outer "as one"....which means it is up and down in a few mins.
    • The pole segments are pretty short so it packs compact.
    • I like a tunnel design....with 2 equal length poles (no f#@king about) and nice vertical-ish sidewalls. While it doesn't work like a bombshelter geo dome.... these tunnel types are VERY flexible....and seem to handle a blow incredibly well.
    • It has proven to be very durable for me.
    • I can often pitch it without any guy-ropes, 4-6 pegs and all good

    Downsides:
    • It would be lovely to have an entrance at both ends. However, this would add weight and probably affect the taut pitch of the foot end. So I wouldn't trade an entrance for that.
    • Being a tunnel, it can sag (unlike a geo dome) if enough snow falls or if has to be pitched on very uneven ground. However, you do get great space-for-weight ratio being a 2 person tunnel. I've only had about 10cm of snow overnight - which will sag it no matter how good the pitch. So a bit of a shake from inside in the middle of the night is needed and it sloughs off.
    • Extra vestibule space would be nice also. But again.... would trade weight.
    • Are Macpac tents still as well made as used to be 20 years ago? Dunno.....but review still look very good

    Alternatively, Wild Country (Terra Nova) tents also have some good options. Would buy....
     
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  17. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    A few makers are now offering a Dyneema version. Z packs might be looking at making a beefier version. I like the fact that you dont need to re tension after the material gets wet.
     
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  18. Moondog55

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    I have a long "Wish List" of possible tent designs. One of them is a 3 pole Minaret to give that extended vestibule, another is a 4 pole Olympus to make it a true 3 person tent by making it 450mm longer in the centre. My favourite tent for Australian conditions was the old Eureka Caddis Expedition [ because it was big enough] and I never will understand why they stopped making it
    EDIT
    I've just visited the Macpac site.
    They have totally changed the design of the Minaret [ and the Olympus] and I could no longer recommend either as the poles are no longer sleeved onto the fly.
     
  19. rols

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    Photos still seem to show pole sleeves in fly?
     
  20. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Photos are showing 2 different pitching options.
     
  21. POW_hungry

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    Mont Epoch, I fit quite comfortably at a 210cm length footprint and tend to sleep diagonally when doing solo trips, but the extra weight is an unnecessary burden.
     
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    6'2" here. I use my rain jacket to protect the foot end of my bag...
     
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  23. GS

    GS A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think you were looking at the 'inner only' pitch option.
    Fly still has sleeves;
    [​IMG]
     
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  27. Moondog55

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    I'd be using one if I could afford one
     
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    Mont Bell Stellar Ridge 2
    1.8 kg including pegs.
    Bomber
    Palatial for 1, snug as a bug in a rug for 2
     
  29. Kelly van den Berg

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    Sounds like a winner thanks!
     
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  30. Kelly van den Berg

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    Oh nice ! Love my Mont Epoch but just too damn heavy for more technical tours. I’ll suds this one out thanks !
     
  31. Kelly van den Berg

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