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Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by MadPatSki, Aug 16, 2018.
Honest of course
I'm unsure why people diss skiing in Australia.
It's a remarkable place to ski considering it's circumstances.
Absolutely! Where else in the world can you spot wombats, kangaroos, and echidnas as you ski or board?
I though his Insta did justice to what I believe is your home hill of Falls Creek actually Currawong. He seemed to find the good bits in the Maze and so forth. Actually he found the good bits of most resorts. He seemed to get around Buller, Hotham and Thredbo too. Lotsa different pics from different locations on the hill. Therefore my guess is he had a bloody ripper time, loving our slopes for what they are - and they're pretty damn good, actually, all things considered.
I agree. I think one of the best things about our skiing is the undulating terrain in most resorts. There's a certain type of off-piste terrain in Australia which I've rarely found overseas. I am finding this hard to explain but I'm sort of talking about the feel and shape of a run, especially when said run has nicely spaced clumps of snowgums.
It’s the vibe, it’s Mabo...
That comment goes straight to the pool room
obviously should have included a
I love skiing in Australia, especially at Falls.
I don't expect a Canadian who has skied everywhere to gush over our ski resorts. I do think a total snow addict like him will manage to have a great time here
If anything, I was making a joke of aussie neediness to get approval from os visitors. you know the cliche - celeb steps off plane and is immediately asked what they think of australia
I totally had a blast. Scenery, terrain, etc. When the snow is present, Australia has nothing to be ashamed of terrain wise. Maybe not in the league with the big World ski areas, but not far off the ones in NZ. More later, trying to plan the next few days.
I just posted some more IG posts.
Very quick and honest impression (note, Saturday’s weather at Thredbo might have limited my perception. Although the Charlotte Pass Poma is out of service, I got a good sense of the terrain).
Best variety: Perisher
Best steeps: Hotham
Best big mountain runs: Thredbo
Best family/beginner (meaning something for everyone in a family of different skills): Falls Creek
Best small with everything to have fun: Buller
Best views, calm and classic feel: Charlotte Pass
Best Terrain Parks: Perisher and Falls Creek
This is both a diplomatic summary and a perceptive summary Pat.
Diplomatic because you have found a positive in each of the resorts, praising their good bits without going over the top.
Perceptive because you really have totally gotten to the heart of each resort’s strengths. I am a journalist by trade and any journalist's most important skill is his or her curiosity. I think it’s the same with good travellers. They too must be curious about the essence of the places they visit, and you have done this.
Congrats on your trip and the enthusiastic, open-minded attitude with which you undertook it
It's our national sport - putting down our country. You're not a cool kid unless you pour shit on Australia: worst skiing, most racist, bogan travellers etc etc. But half the world wants to live here.
Any recommendations (hostel, etc - Part of town?) for a place to sleep in Sydney? I have a car, but not planning on using it much.
Sleeping in Bateman Bay tonight.
Tomorrow night Sydney??
If you want a full CBD location check The Australian Heritage Hotel in The Rocks, or maybe the CTA (Commercial Travellers’ Club) at Martin Place. I’m not sure if the Asutalian’s parking. CTA offers it though I think.
There is also a Youth Hostel right near Central (Central Station). All day parking might be harder.
Take the Grand pacific drive to Sydney @MadPatSki
Heading north from Batemans Bay.. You'll end up on a freeway as you enter Wollongong.
Instead of taking the easier freeway option to Sydney... veer off towards Bulli and take the coast road.
Closest all day parking is in Redfern around eveleigh street (it used to be)
Good idea, great tourist drive.
There is a Youth Hostel in The Rocks. Full on Opera House views.
Now in Sydney. Just finished posting the last ski related post from Australia on my IG.
Next will be yesterday at Canberra and today’s NSW’s Coast. Thank you again from the suggestions. Pebble Beach A+
.... that's how the war started
At least I didn’t say which ski resort was the best.
Reading this comment gave me an immediate mental image of the run from top of Karels to Dead Horse Gap. Changes of pitch, scattered trees, tons of lines. Perfect place to make your own signature, and very different from what I'm used to in Canada.
Sitting here in Sydney.., pouring rain outside I didn’t have much energy to go exploring. I saw the harbour as the lightning, thunders and pouring rain moved in.
I’ll go for a walking tour tomorrow morning and maybe up the tower (I like seeing.cities from high places to get a good overview). I’ve been trying to do too much. I wanted to take the Great Pacific drive, but it was getting late and I might have spent 2+ hours at Pebble Beach. The previous day, I underestimated to time to walk to get to the National museum and didn’t have time to visit it and the War Memorial.
SO... tomorrow, do I just focus on the city? Or combine it with Manly or Bondie?
Take the ferry to Manly (I presume not with the car?)? Or choose Bondie?
If the weather is nice, i reckon the ferry trip to manly (or other points) is hard to beat
If the weather is not so good, a drive up to pittwater or to the blue mountains might be nice. (but then I'm not much into cities)
I grew up in sydney and most of my memories are from the 60s and 70s and working visits in the mid 80s-mid 90s.
Bondi is overrated, inhabited by people who are there to be seen. Plus getting there is a pain. IMO Manly is a much nicer place and you get a bonus of a Harbour cruise on the way. Getting to Bondi is underwhelming.
When you get to Manly turn right at the surf beach and follow the walkway to Cabbage Tree Bay. There is a track that starts near the entrance of the carpark which will take you to North Head - the north side of the Harbour entrance. It's a bit of a hike but the views are great.
Ferry trips are a nice way to see the harbour. We did the one from Circular Quay to Darling Harbour last time we were in the city.
If you have the bucks the Harbour Bridge Climb is pretty spectacular.
This. Make sure you have a beer at the Fortunes of War in The Rocks.
Looking at the weather tomorrow the ferry ride to Manly will be a lot more pleasant and interesting.
Bondi is great on a sunny warm non windy day, otherwise it can be a bit dull and boring.
The ferry ride would be much better in this same good weather, but you can be out of the rain and warm, and still really get a good perspective of the harbour and foreshore which is very pretty even in the rain.
Is it a car ferry? Passenger? Do I take the car? One way on the boat, return by car?
Some of the ferries have beers too!
If you walk from Coogee beach to Bondi beach along the coastal walking path then you will see some nice stuff.
Passenger commuter ferries.
Leave the car whereever it is, driving is Sydney sucks.
If you are in the city, you want to get on the ferry at Circular Quay (it has a train stop, but no parking).
It's a great way to see the city and harbour.
Passenger. Cheaper on the weekend too.
here you go Bud.
local lad down this way.
Postcard from heaven.
A fairly extended concept of "Sydney". Not that teh Batemans Bay area is not worth a visit.
he stayed in the Bay the other night ffs
my image post may be remotely relevant.........
What he missed?
dont think so mate.
think he got to Pebbly was my read.
your doing it again.
such a great thread too.
well played .
Of course it's my fault, although I'm not sure what "it" is. Do you have any tips for our Canadian friend who happens to be in Sydney, not Batemans Bay?
I was thinking that, if he wants to drive, a circuit through Kuringai to the north (taking in the Northern Beaches) or the Royal National Park to the south might be a plan.
My sleep pattern is slowly getting back to normal (it doesn't help when you can't sleep on the flights home).
Once again I want to thanks everyone that made it trip for successful (including Mother Nature). Tips or deals given, suggestions of things to see, etc etc.
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to see everything that I had planned or hoped to see. I had planned to take the ferry to Manly, but missed the morning Free walking tour in Sydney in favour to finishing my packing while the office of the hostel was still open (for access to the scale to weigh my luggage).
Out of time or didn't make it (visiting inside the War Memorial, Pacific Drive south of Sydney, Manly). I would definitely want to get a better look at Thredbo (with clear visibility and top lifts open). Spend more time in Canberra and Sydney.
So all these means, I need to go back to Australia someday and bring my wife.
PS. I didn't try kangaroo meat, my heart wasn't into it.
Pat, glad you.had a great time. What did you think of Canberra?
I asked about the museum, they mentioned it was open in the afternoon. Unfortunately, it was closed when I got there late afternoon.
I think they are dependent on a fairly small pool of volunteers
As I was skiing all over the ski area, I didn't spend that much time in one spot. Plus the Grimus didn't open until the afternoon as it was on windhold and I had no energy left when I finally rode pass 3ish. I skied pretty much every aspect of the ski area. Didn't get to ski the black runs on looker's right from the lift.
Fanny's Finnish: probably the most technical run I did on this trip. It's steep but frozen hard. If someone would have fallen under these conditions, they would have been no way to self-arrest and avoid tumbling beyond the ski boundary rope at the bottom. Also wondering, FF might be the steepest ski map runs in Australia, definitely steeper than anything I saw in NSW. The only ones in the same category would be at Hotham below the Gotcha lift.
I was more time-strapped than cash-strapped. Definitely looks cool, but I found out you can't bring your camera gear.
I think I already answered this question prior to the leaving Australia.
As a North American, you are only interested in the skiing aspect in predictable consistent great conditions, just go out Western Canada/US. Forget the Andes, NZ, the Alps, etc. But if you are looking for more into your ski trips, definitely go to the Andes, the Alps, New Zealand... and even Australia.
Cost (lift passes/entrance fees) is a major disincentive to skiing Australia. How does the skiing stand on it own? Pretty good. I've had as much fun in Australia than I did on my 2016 NZ trips or some of my Andes trips.
As an Eastern North American skier, I can definitely relate to the home terrain bashing versus the bigger and deeper ski resorts of the West. Varying conditions in Eastern North America as well as Australia, are sometimes more challenging, but challenging doesn't make skiing bad in my books (they are probably pages and pages of posts on various ski forums arguing that point). For example, you can compare skiing between the East and the US in North America, as they are entirely different. It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. Yes, New Zealand might have better snow, but the difference isn't that great if Australia is having a really good snow year.
That being said, I've skied more ski days lifetime skiing in South Hemisphere Winters than in Northern Hemisphere Western North America Winters (not counting Spring months). Probably one of the main reasons why I don't travel in the core of my local season, although Japan is high on my bucket list.
Hope that answers your questions?