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travelling to Europe 2019/2020

Discussion in 'Europe' started by ttn, May 11, 2019.

  1. ttn

    ttn Hard Yards

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    Already in May and no one has any plans for next year yet?

    My Chief wants another French Alps trip :cry::cry::cry: January 2020

    Looks like two weeks of 4th-11th Jan and 11th-18th Jan
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just found out that the ski test is in Pila again for the first week in March, guess we will build a trip around that. Might change things up and ski Feb instead of our usual March, we could go to ISPO first week of Feb, ski, then go to the ski test then home.
     
  3. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Awaiting leave allocation to see where things fall. But with another sprog coming not sure what we'll do.

    Love me some January alpage.
     
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  4. Zeroz

    Zeroz A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Landing in Turin in January. Looking for fun off-piste adventure, new experiences.

    Maybe the Milky Way in Italy/France (Sestriere, Sauze d'Oulx, Montgenèvre etc) plus some time in La Grave.
    Like to check out Skicircus Saalbach-Hinterglemm-Leogang-Fieberbrunn-needs a shorter name.
    Liked Zinal, Alagna, Verb, ValD, so maybe there again. Cham for the 5th time? A lesser known, smaller area?

    Depends on where it has snowed and will snow. Most of the Alps is accessible in one day. January is not busy.
     
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  5. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wait till Zell am See/Schmittenhöhe is linked. Name will need to be adjusted again. Probably easiest to just refer to it as the Saalbach ski circus. The Saalbach part in the current name is in a bigger font.
     
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  6. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I want the Alagna drought to break for you like it did for @glisse in Utah in about 2005. I worked with his sister in DV and he came over every year for about 4 years and didn't see a single flake fall out of the sky. Was totally cursed, but when the drought broke, it broke!

     
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  7. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    So I've decided on Monterosa for the first two weeks of Feb and there will be 6 of us going. My plan is to take my splitboard and hire a guide for as many days as my budget will allow. Skill levels vary amongst the group so the area seems to provide the right amount of variety for everyone, as well as elevation for more reliable snow.

    Has anyone got any advice on where to stay? Initially I was thinking Gressoney La-Trinite / Staffal in the central valley for ease of access to any of the 3 valleys, however does it make much difference? We're looking to rent a 3 bedroom chalet for the two weeks so options open up if I search all of the valleys.
     
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  8. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    for selfish reasons I hope it does too.
     
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  9. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Val D'Isère
    2 weeks
    January

    Flights booked
    Accomodation deposit paid
     
  10. Born2ski

    Born2ski Part of the Furniture

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    Flying at the pointy end of the plane ?
     
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  11. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    ;)
     
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  12. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Staffal is where all the lifts are but there's a bit more at La Trinite. What's your transport situation? There's plenty of parking at Staffal but I have no idea what the buses etc are like. Without a car I'd stay at Staffal I reckon.

    There's a great restaurant in La Trinite called the Flying Brasserie.
     
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  13. Zeroz

    Zeroz A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Monterosa's 3 valleys cover a huge area. Much bigger than I expected. IMO, going west to east, the 3 main towns:

    Champoluc - Family orientated, town atmosphere, west end of Monterosa. Lots of accom and lift options
    Gressoney - good central location for mixed groups. Access all types of terrain and great mountain restaurants
    Alagna - at the east end, is best for off piste access. It has exactly one lift out of town. Pistes are fewer and steeper.

    Gressoney's central location is important. e.g. miss the 3.45pm lift from Gressoney to Alagna and it's a 3 hr $$$ taxi ride,
    or an unplanned night in a hotel somewhere. Gressoney seems very spread out and quiet, if that's what you want.

    Topo fatmap gives a better idea
    https://fatmap.com/around/Gressoney-La-Trinité/Italy/@45.829612,7.8241273,782.2997044,0,0,0,normal
     
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  14. skinavy

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    Planning on going to the Winter World Masters Games in Innsbruck in first half of January.
     
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  15. CarveMan

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    The other thing with Alagna/Gressoney that you need to watch out for is wind hold at the Salati pass. That could ruin your day too.
     
  16. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks guys, I’ll have a bit more of a look for places around Gressoney for its central location but otherwise might need to look at Champoluc. Sounds like Champoluc would be a good option anyway for those that want some down time.
     
  17. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    One last quick question, from experience is it easy enough to ski over from Champoluc to Gressoney?

    We won’t have a car (or at least wasn’t planning to).
     
  18. Whiteman

    Whiteman A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    We will be heading to Austria in mid February, possibly back to Saalbach, but maybe somewhere different. Not sure yet.
     
  19. Zeroz

    Zeroz A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes, it Europe so they like to link towns with runs. There's a gondola to Crest or funicular from Frachey, then lifts.

    I liked this article on Champoluc plus a bit on Gressoney and Alagna. http://welove2ski.com/champoluc
     
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  20. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    That really is a great read - cheers.
     
  21. Swede

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    Cham in March, no dates yet, whenever most mates will be around free to ski :)
     
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  22. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks for the help all, now booked from 1st Feb - 15th Feb and staying in Champoluc. Can't wait for some back country turns!!
     
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  23. rdk

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    I week in Les Menuires 18 - 25 Jan, I week in Zermatt 25 Jan - 1 Feb.

    Flights & accommodation sorted. Flying into Lyon, out of Zurich.
     
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  24. ttn

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    We had been to Val D Tignes so not considered this time

    We get to Lyon on the 3rd Jan so train to Moutiers on the 4th and bus to either 3V or La Plagne

    Maybe Morzine (LPDS) on the 2nd week. A bit concern about snow on mid Jan :)

    No car and ski on piste 5 days (maybe 6?) for each resort. Fly out of Geneva late

    Any advice?
     
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    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    The 3V is beyond epic for long groomers that will take you over a week to fully explore.

    Some great on mountain restaurants and good connectivity between the areas.
     
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  26. Hyst

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    Stay in Peisey Vallandry - easy for both La Plange and les Aces.
    And tree runs for bad weather.
    Many british cater chalet in Le Villaret area.
     
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    careful with transfers between resorts/airports can be costly. moutiers to 3v - les menuires/val thorens shouldn't be too bad but a transfer to Geneva airport from there can add upto big $$$. we did Grenoble (near to lyon) to les arcs 1950 - 400 euro one way 5 people then les arc to Geneva slightly better at 375 euro private transfers. morzine/pds there are shared shuttles at around 30 euro pp each way to Geneva airport as not too far (alpybus.com/skiidygonzales.com). Saturdays are the main switch over days - I mean that most of the tour operators fly in/out that day and road to and from resorts can be a nightmare especially if big snow that day - go early or late during that day if possible. avoriaz is above morzine in pds maybe look at there to base yourself - if snow is lean avoriaz is at 1800 and morzine is way below there and if no snow/low snow people from morzine flock upto avoriaz via bus or lifts but the whole area is great. and folie douce is now at avoriaz too
     
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    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    If you want transfers and your dates are booked.. may as well email away now and try to lock in the transfer

    Saturday transfers can be hard and book out early
     
  29. ttn

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    Thank you guys and after the weekend research I think we should book in Meribel Mottaret as easier to connect to other resorts and not expensive either

    Have to decide on either Paradiski or LPDS for the other week :love:
     
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    As Paradiski is in the next valley it may be a bit same-same-but-different. PDS likely to be a completely different experience. You're right to be concerned about the snow that time of year though,
     
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    Mottaret is a very good choice for for location in 3V, many apartments, a few hotels and and my favorit discount catered Chalet (Freeride Lodge) has died away. :cry:
     
  32. smitty484

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    Hello! Does anyone have suggestions on the best way for 6 people with ski gear to get from Turin to Champoluc? We won't be hiring a car. I am assuming a private shuttle is probably the most convenient given the number of people + luggage, but I am interested to hear thoughts from the brains trust please.
     
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    29th Feb to 14th March :)
     
  34. Zeroz

    Zeroz A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    We did Milan to Alagna in Feb. Similarly, about a 2 hour trip.
    Car is overkill. train/bus awkward, private minibus/van best option. Four co's actually doing it. Lots of aggregators.

    One of the 4 co's said 'email all of us a few days beforehand. One of us is often doing a run empty after a drop-off.
    They'll be keen, you'll get a deal, we'll all be happy". That's what happened. I think it was 40 euros pp.

    For six people you'll need to book a van/minibus. Someone else may get a cheap trip back.
     
  35. smitty484

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    Back to the Portes du Soleil (Morzine) for us this northern winter. Arriving December 29, leaving January 26. Mostly sliding with a short side trip to Prague to play tourist. :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
     
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    Flying Geneva to Prague?
    Sounds like a fine trip. Have fun.
     
  38. Piste Again

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    Yeah, direct flights both ways with swissair. I did investigate the train but it takes too long and the budget airlines end up taking us through Brussels or somewhere equally the wrong way for only a small saving.

    We'll be there for a month so we won't be physically able to ski every day. We'll take rest days when the weather is crap and make sure we get out on the good days. It's the best way to do a ski trip! The area is big enough that we won't get bored - 650+km of trails, 200+ lifts.
     
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    There's an Easyjet base in Geneva also worth checking for ski breaks away, good direct access to some spots
     
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    Progress on the new Gondola link to Zell Am See from Viehofen ( Saalbach Skicircus).
     
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    Sankt Anton- the old chair up to Schindler Kar is being replaced with a 10 person Gondola. The access to the West Flank chutes 2 and 3 used to involve going under the high lift platform to get to the very steep traverse. Skirting around lower could be a bit more dramatic if the top station prevents that pathway.
     
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    When's it opening, 19/20 or 20/21?
    Found it. December 2019.
     
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    Currently the regular Postbus runs from Zell an See via Maishofen down the Glemmtal to Saalbach and Hinterglemm. The ski buses currently run between Vorderglemm and Hinterglemm. That would just extend to Viehhofen.

    I'm interested in what they are going to call the combined resort. Saalbach-Hintreglemm-Leogang-Fieberbrunn-Zell am See is getting a bit unwieldy. Then there is the next Ski Challenge circuit.
     
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    Got a mate's 40th in Samoens in January, so will be checking out the Grand Massif area. Anyone spent much time there?
     
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    learnt to ski in flaine which is part of the Grand Massif. Samoens is beautiful medical village with the best nightlife in the area. Overall ski area is decent sized with great immediate cruising. There is some good offpiste as well. Normally more snowy than the altitude suggests because of the Mont Blanc factor. You can’t ski into Samoens but it’s a good base and relatively quick transfer from Geneva. Should be great unless they are having a truly awful snow season.
     
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    Yeah skied a bit in Flaine. Not as impressive as the mega resorts in the area but nice skiing and great views.
     
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    Cheers, guys.

    We usually ski Cham, so certainly expecting the terrain to be not a patch on Grand Montets, but am pretty sure we'll have an awesome time anyway. Great to hear that the nightlife is good, as there will be some non-skiers in the group looking for things to do on quiet days. Looks like the kind of village that the kids will enjoy as well.

    Will do a TR whilst there.
     
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    Going back to Saalbach mid Feb. :cheers:
     
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    If the snow is good will be trying to convince the family to head to saalbach in early March
     
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