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Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by VSG, Jun 10, 2007.
Not a bad idea for a ski resort...
certainly a good proposition there, its a shame though - i think the whole average snow depth issue in Australia needs rectification before someone will finance something like that
Crayola 07, bahahaha...
VSG, if you get that one through the national parks, I for one will make you my guru and donate a percentage of my income to your charitable foundation.
mmm many have tried Janus... one day, one will succeed..
From a 1983 publication...
Ah yes, that came just after the expose on "global warming" right?
It would be so sweet.. I reckon extend Thredbo further towards DHG, there are some nice sustained pitches on the front country.
the last thread on twin valleys was the first thread I read on these forums, so its all VSG's fault I am still here.
I love this idea, then again there arent too many VSG crayolas I dont like.
Imagine it was linked to thredders, essentially doubling terrain. With an extension to DHG or Golf Course Bowl liftup, along with Twin Valleys, thredders has the potential to become a super resort.
as someone pointed out though, it is questionable if they are financially feasible.
Twin Valleys would make an excellent resort. There was debate in the 70's about where to build a new resort in KNP - Twin Valleys or Blue Cow. We all know what they chose. Why couldn't they choose both?
throw a Tbar in Stanley gorge as well...........
No one had dollars back then, and with global warming... ??? who would bother now. I reckon a fe T's above and into west valley, with a snowmaking supplied home trail to base of merrits... that would work. An extension of Thredbo, really.
Edit: somebody's done a lot of work, before me...
Wiki on TValleys and Stanleys
View from the Cruiser quad on Merrits Spur, across to Stanleys. Thanks to ski.com.au and Ian D.
A real waste.. all that terrain to the right of Merrits...
A photo of the Stanleys area, and existing lifts...
Anything over there would involve a significant amount of clearing to make the lower areas skiable. In the peak of 2005 season (which was about average) it would have taken a brave skier to attack anything below about 1600m. I'm sure it fills in nicely in a good year though.
I can think of better areas to develop. Mt tate springs to mind.
opening up golf course bowl would be an excellent development proposal in conjunction or concurrent to, this proposal...won't hold breath tho
You will note on my map... I've focussed on areas in the white zone, i.e, above the tree line.
It must be June again...
Would the National Parks ever allow it??
No, and I'm sure these lunatics would have something to say too.
Snow Blowey, where's Mt Tate?
A radical bunch of fun loving loonies that lot are. The types that would have us living back in caves as it "ecologically sustainable".
you can see it from Guthega
Isn't there a big @rse waterfall at the bottom of Stanley's?. This would have to be fenced off to stop people from killing themselves.
I knew exactly who you were talking about without even opening the link.
i reckon in a couple of years development applications DAs will be all about the money invested with the appropriate government departments which have the power to approve or disapprove projects like TW and the Thredbo superduper resort..
by curltailing the rights of political antagonists and rivals and a bit of old school government corruption and bribery, TW and the Thredbo super resort is a real possibility.
pigs, it would require so many things before it got to the development/EIS/Pt3A arena that no one would risk the dough. Seriously, forgeddabout Twin Valleys. Any Thredbo expansion would need to be worth the dollars for AHL before it was worth applying the effort to expand, but at least Thredbo expansion would be in their own lease area.
i guess it was just tongue in cheek wishful thinking then1
Thredbo's lease heads west.
Well, it's been hard to find out exactly where Thredbo's lease extends to... but I reckon I've found it. A mud map of mine.
Is it close to what you know, Climberman?
I have the old 1:50000 and it shows something like that - but it does cut a couple of the marked lifts in two so i wasn't sure if that was it.
It's a shame the western end of that area is virtually useless to skiers.
I say extend the lease area to cover DHG and lift it!
Some great black to double black terrain there... just get a chainsaw or two, and some dozers...... run some snowmaking on the lower bits....
Thanks to Heli, some shots of the western end.
Some snowmaking? Some dozers?
You'd need a nuclear weapon to make the terrain on the lower half of that section skiable.
...and the nuclear winter may make skiing there on natural snow viable...
funnelweb snowmaking and cut a couple of runs there in the golf course bowl
True. But the original visionaries for the Thredbo resort (Sponar and co.) must have had a vision for the western steeps between 1850 and 1500m or so..... the steepest pitches in the whole resort!
All looks good VSG except in the centre of the map image there's small text reading "Snowy River". What's that all about?
The main problem with going to the west end is the diminishing vertical. You lose vert traversing out there and sacrifice more to traverse back. The fall line runs would be intense but short. But it'd be nice to see some direct fall lines skiing at Thredbo for a change!
maybe a planned redirection to accomodate a funicular tunnel? I dont know..
The mapping software does that. It is the shire or some other geographic locality thing. It randomly puts the shire title somewhere on the section of map that I have selected.
Yes, the diminishing vertical is a prob. I know. But a good 250 to 300m of black to double black would be fun. Serviced by a lift.
It's all in good fun....
the vertical on the western most run is not dissimilar to Heavenly Valley at Hotham.
I think Snowy River refers to the Parish or Council or some such.
Looks good to me but there's not much cash to made from a new lift serving expert-only terrain. And the tree removal required, no wonder that ridge has stayed untouched for 40 years. Dealing with KNP on that one would produce Titanic-sized headaches.
OK, here's the plan. We all go to Nepal, cut off a huge chuck of Everest, and fly it down and drop it on top of the western leased area.
That will work.
Ok and.....go! *starts digging*
No wonder. Indeed.
If I was Kosci-Thredbo... I'd just start work. It's in my lease, boss, its in my lease. I can do what I like. You could cut just three Funnelweb type runs... and the keen intermediates could take a wide detour out along the spur that runs down to DHG, and cut back to the western lift.