1. There's more to this forum than meets the eye!

    We have a vibrant community here conversing about all sorts of non-snow topics such as music, sport, politics and technology. Simply register to reveal all our Après topics or continue browsing and reading as a guest.

    NOTE: This notice may be closed.

    Dismiss Notice

Question Unbiased opinion on staying at Dinner Plain vs Hotham?

Discussion in 'Hotham & Dinner Plain' started by Kero, Jan 23, 2019.

Tags:
  1. Kero

    Kero Hard Yards

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2018
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    2
    We are travelling to Victoria in August 2019 and will have family stay for the 2 days over the weekend and just 2 of us the other 4 days. It appears that Dinner Plain is the best option for us cost wise otherwise we have to pay for 4 people for the 6 days.

    It does look like a lovely spot but we are both intermediate/advanced skiers and may need to travel each day to Mt Hotham. Is this a difficult trip (eg similar to Remarks Rd NZ) and is there appropriate parking or shuttle?

    Appreciate any unbiased opinions. Other option is Mt Beauty but the trip to Falls is much longer. :)
     
  2. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2014
    Messages:
    30,243
    Likes Received:
    24,716
    Location:
    Coastal suburban boonies.
    Hotham to Dinner Plain is straight and flat compared to the roads up to Hotham and Falls, and a superhighway compared to the road up to the Remarkables.
     
  3. Annabuzzy

    Annabuzzy Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    13,053
    Likes Received:
    5,595
    Location:
    Sydney
    Dinner Plain is great. I’d happily stay there if notably cheaper than Hotham.
     
    Chaeron likes this.
  4. Richard

    Richard Maintenance Dept Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1995
    Messages:
    12,684
    Likes Received:
    10,658
    Location:
    Newcastle
    Dinner Plain to Hotham is the easiest, shortest drive of any commute into an Australian ski field. The road is wide, sealed, and with good gravel edges. Few turns, no hairpins and almost no climbs. In heavy frost and overnight freeze conditions it is subject to slipperyness, as any snow road is.

    The only real issue is the locals hoof along faster than is comfortable for everyone else.

    There's plenty of parking and shuttles operate during the snow season. Busy weekends are tight for spaces so drive up early.

    You will be required to carry diamond pattern chains but only needed after heavy overnight snowfall - the road gets cleared quickly.
     
    FatBoyDave and piolet like this.
  5. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2003
    Messages:
    31,313
    Likes Received:
    14,746
    Location:
    Kiewa Valley
    Aargh. I wrote a long reply yesterday but it's not here. Post reply must not have registered.
    Key points were
    • DP is a lovely spot, although I've never actually stayed there. Hotham has more night life if that matters
    • There is a bus to hotham but you have to pay. People whinge about cost.
    • Driving into hotham is also expensive and day parking can be a PITA esp at weekends
    • Free shuttle buses within hotham resort run fairly frequently but that doesn't mean you can get on at busy times.
    • Main day car park needs shuttle bus to main lifts unless there is good cover
    • If you stay at dp and use the bus it can be a pita if you need to change gear during the day or go back to the lodge for any reason. Still a pita if you drive but less so
    • Lift at DP is just a beginner lift
    • Getting your gear to your accom at DP is easy. Depending where you stay at hotham it can be a pita
    Overall, DP would be a very good option if you don't need nightlife or expect to need to return to lodge during the day

    That's the unbiased bit.
    The biased bit is to ski falls creek :D
     
  6. Echo Base

    Echo Base Hard Yards

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2017
    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    141
    (from biased DP homeowner)
    Currawaong says it well. There are three day parking options and my preferences are:
    1. (Hotham Central) Corral Carpark - right next to main lifts, shops and day shelter, but is small and fills up very early
    2. Loch Carpark - next to main advanced lift (Heavenly), 100m walk to small day shelter, and rarely fills, but very exposed and not suitable for beginners (there are access trails for intermediates)
    3. (Main) Davenport Carpark - roadside parking starts near kids ski school, is closest to DP and rarely fills, but as Currawong states, it requires a shuttle or good cover on its three access trails to reach main runs.
    Quite often, I end up dropping the troops at Hotham Central, then driving to Loch carpark and rejoining the group after a solo run or two ;)
     
    currawong likes this.
  7. FatBoyDave

    FatBoyDave One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2013
    Messages:
    1,438
    Likes Received:
    1,095
    Location:
    Melbourne
    The bus from DP to Hotham runs from 7am to 6pm, running every 1/2 hr. It stops at ~5 stops around the DP village and has a few stops up at Hotham.
    Costs $10 one way or $15 return, (less for kids). Note you need a "SMART card" to use the bus (which you can purchase from visitor services) and preload online.
    The bus driver will not take cash.
    https://www.mthotham.com.au/on-moun...llage-transport#6742-dinner-plain-bus-service
    Alternatively drive, it's only a 12km drive from DP to Hotham and as others have said, it's a pretty cruisy drive, but..you will need to pay mountain entry for the car each day (~$50 per day per vehicle).
    The bus/car combo is a great option if someone wants to leave early or stay late and keep skiing.

    As for staying at DP vs Hotham. If you have some non skiers in the group I would recommend DP as there is more stuff to walk around and see in DP. There is the Onsen, Brewery, tubing, toboggan area. A lot of the accom is self contained homes with a dedicated car park and some space around the homes where you can watch kids snow play while not having to go outside yourself.

    If you are all intermediate/advanced skiers I would recommend to stay at Hotham as you can come back to the room at any time for lunch/breaks and if the weather turns. This also allows you to make the most of the 7:30am early start on the Heavenly lift.

    To reduce costs (if staying at Hotham), you can switch accom when the bigger group arrives (a pain).. Or book accommodation at a lodge, many have private rooms with ensuites.
     
    Bogong and currawong like this.
  8. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    May 12, 2000
    Messages:
    76,226
    Likes Received:
    41,002
    Location:
    Les Hautes Montagnes
    A friend of mine has rolled a van between DP and Hotham but he's an idiot.

    It's easy. DP is very nice.
     
    currawong likes this.
  9. chriscross

    chriscross One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2005
    Messages:
    1,744
    Likes Received:
    502
    Location:
    Beaconsfield,Victoria
    The OP probably needs to consider road access options to DP. DP to Hotham is easy as indicated above. But access to DP, if coming south down the Hume, entails a drive along the Great Alpine road via Bright and through Mt Hotham resort. Lots of corners, some drop offs and tricky in snowy conditions. The drive to DP from the South, via the Princes Hwy, is easier but longer, narrow in places and sometimes subject to road closures and delays.
     
  10. SuskiQ

    SuskiQ Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 1999
    Messages:
    12,768
    Likes Received:
    1,634
    Location:
    Mostly Australia
    Many more road closures between Harrietville > Hotham than there are between Princes Hwy > DP!
     
    currawong likes this.
  11. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2003
    Messages:
    31,313
    Likes Received:
    14,746
    Location:
    Kiewa Valley
    agree. and if you can get to Hotham, the extra distance to DP is not a big deal - or vice versa
     
    Bogong likes this.
  12. cookieman

    cookieman One of Us

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    1,626
    Likes Received:
    1,584
    Location:
    Melb - DPlain
    Dinner Plain is perfect for families as accommodation is mainly private houses with your own car parking near the front door.
    Kids can also safely play outside.
    The drive to Hotham from DP is quite easy.
    There is also a bus shuttle at a cost.
    There is no need for resort entry pass if your car stays at DP.
     
  13. mr

    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2003
    Messages:
    16,984
    Likes Received:
    8,795
    Location:
    melbourne
    Alternarively.........On mountain accom is normally fri-sat nights and sun-thurs nights on peak. Consider 2 nights on mountain with the whole crew with the full mountain experience and then either move accom for you 2 or head down to DP (or vice versa). That way theres less rooting around getting on to the snow with a bigger group. I like DP too but the trip can be a rigmarole if you arent geared up with your own stuff, used to it, good at the parking spots, loading skis boots boards etc. If $$ is #1, then DP no brainer
     
  14. mr

    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2003
    Messages:
    16,984
    Likes Received:
    8,795
    Location:
    melbourne
    We sometimes also move rooms within a club lodge on mountain to achieve same