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Vail Building More on Snow Accommodation (or Acquiring and Updating Existing Ones)

Discussion in 'Perisher' started by Pete Holden, Jul 22, 2020.

  1. Slowman

    Slowman One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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  2. Donzah

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    Anyone that's been to perisher in summer knows it's pointless to invest heavily in bricks and mortar..
    From a ski resort based aspect
     
  3. Chookfooter

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    My understanding is they can't agree on a price. Vail don't particularly want the costs involved in a head lease, such as maintaining roads, water and sewer in an old village which is so spread out. The State wants to get rid of it, Vail don't want it.
     
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    Im not sure what the point of that would be? If use it enough to make it worthwhile you will be skiing enough to make the epic pass worthwhile.
     
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    Do you mean the one that had the fire?
     
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    Monorail!
     
  7. crackson

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    Yep. Kaprun.

    Always evacuate down.
     
  8. crackson

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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    We were there in 2003. On my soap box but I won't be going back to Austria to ski. So rude. Had someone remove my child from the gate as we were about to go through it. Picked him up by the collar and dumped him of the side off the path to the lift. Caused mayhem because we refused to move out of the way till we had retrieved him. Was not the only incident. We literally had to protect our kids from other skiers. Horrid experience.
     
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  10. Dropbear

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    So if the government says we need a Resort Management Board because NPWS doesn't want to do it, and Vail doesn't want to do it, then why don't they/we set up an independent body to fit the gap? Perisher Valley Cooperative?
     
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    Gotta be creative, when we built in Kirwan 3 years ago we rented a place for a year at Berridale, put three guys in it. Contracted all the electrical, plumbing A/C garage doors windows kitchens, plaster painting etc to Sydney trades, knocked it over in 11 months, its a great lifestyle in Jindy but no motivation to get stuff done in normal commercial timeframes.

    All the trades were happy to travel down sunday nites and stay in accom provided.

    That said its a bit different building a village :)
     
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    zac150 A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I have a plan to eventually build up there, I have lots of clients who are tradies and I make sure I mark their file if they are skiers. I plan to barter accommodation for work.
     
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    The lack of any viable/affordable regular bus transport to either Perisher or Thredbo from
    Jindabyne is staggering. You compare to the options to get up the mountain at Queenstown
    and you can see why the car park is ****ed. It’s no magic bullet, but it makes a big difference to traffic numbers.
     
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    Yup it’s the #1 thing that I notice each time I ski in NSW.
     
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    zac150 A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    pretty sure it comes up every year! Till national park changes their pricing structure it won’t change.
     
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    Public transport / shuttles are something one would not want to downgrade to after driving from Sydney in the all new shiny all wheel / 4 wheel drive. Must park in carpark way at the back or down the road and argue with children about being 30 minutes too late. LOL
     
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    O-Bahn. Guided busways like Adelaide.

    ^deja-vu^
     
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    I've always thought, on the proviso someone could create an efficient/cost effective non car transport to bullocks from Jindabyne that significantly reduced need for carparking (pipedream I know) that building a small village on part of the skitube car park could be a pretty effective way for Vail to tap into the summer tourism market. They have a lease over the land already, it integrates easily to winter ops through skitube and they would not need to build a single actual tourist attraction other than the village itself due to being directly linked to TVT and Snowy Iconic Walk trail heads which links you into a much larger overall interconnected regional network of hiking and mtn biking trails, easy stroll to thredbo river or lake crackenback for swim/canoe/kayak, all the activites of Lake Crakenback a stones throw away, some nice short walks to spots like Bullocks Hut. The location really is at the epicentre of access to winter and summer activities.
     
  19. Chookfooter

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    Why they didn't build The Station at Bullocks I'll never know.
     
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    $$$$
    And the Station made sense. In the early 90's
     
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    NOt sure of the validity, but someone once told me they had plans to run the tube all the way to the station. ??? Could be BS, probably is, but it was the 80s anything was possible...
     
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    Its BS.
    Never ever had a plan for.
     
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    That's what I understood as well hence the name
     
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    One of the biggest myths going around. Lots of people tell you that story, but no actual basis in fact.

    Does make a good story though:D Kind of believable too because of “the station”;) Wouldnhave been great
     
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    Fair bit of terrain between the station and bullocks!
     
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    Well it sounds like it makes sense. But I live in a Station Street, although there has never been a railway station on the street, nor was one ever planned. It's appears that a land developer back in the 1870s thought that having a Station Street would be a good way to promote the area and sell housing blocks, so they gave my street a deliberately misleading name.
     
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    "sheep station "
     
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    The resorts can and probably should be private car free. But of course our public transport is not the greatest in Australia, let alone in the Alpine region in high season.
     
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    Even if it’s just property owners & overnight visitors cars would make a huge difference.
     
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    Overnight visitors could come on regularly run coaches from Canberra after having arrived there on high speed rail...oh, don't get me started!
     
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    Everyone could park at the Equestrian Resort and use their shuttle service............................If I’m not mistaken, that’s Normo riding in the rear! LOL


     
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    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: A triple like.
     
  33. Dropbear

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    Yeah it'd be a great place for a town.

    But if this was done, wouldn't it make The Station an even more redundant backwater than it already is, hence Perisher's / Vail's disinterest?
     
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    If you've got capital, a ski club would welcome you. ;)
     
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    What would be the cost of building a multi level carpark and village compared to adding some more ski-tube trains and bundling the train fare into cost of tickets?

    Have special airline style containers to load luggage into and have it delivered to your lodge.

    Build another rail spur line at the bottom for a separate 'express lane' for season pass holders and club lodge members with luggage.
     
  36. Bogong

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    It's not possible to run more trains in a tunnel, it has limited capacity. Measures can be taken to reduce "dwell time" at stations and carriages could be redesigned to have more efficient layouts, but things like that are expensive and only marginally improve capacity. And you can't run trains on a rack railway at high speeds.

    Short of boring an extra tunnel, it would be hard to significantly increase the ability of the Ski Tube to transport a lot more passengers per hour.
     
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    Build a central village with some decent accommodation and apartments and a few cafes and restaurants. Underground car park

    Done
     
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    That's a shame, I can't imagine boring another tunnel would be economic.
     
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