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Village Trail vs Super Trail

Discussion in 'Thredbo' started by Dos, Sep 15, 2012.

  1. Dos

    Dos One of Us

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    Based on Thredbo Trail map, both Super Trail and Village Trail are of "Green" level. However, I'm a bit confused by their captions.

    According to the captions, Super Trail is suitable for beginners while, despite being green, Village Trail has some challenging sections and is not recommended for beginners. In fact, it's not even groomed. So why green when it's not recommended for beginners?
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Dos,
    I would expect it is the other way round.
    Village Trail is all green, all the way. It has diversions off the Supertrail where Supertrail gets steeper. Supertrail is blue in sections - it is marked on the trail map in orange, not sure why....
     
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    I thought that too. Super Trail sounds and looks more intimidating to me, seeing that it goes straight down the hill, while Village Trail bends around the world. However, the captions say otherwise. That's what confuses me.
     
  4. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Is that captions on the printed paper trail map?
    I had a squizz to see if I had one here to refer to, but couldn't find one.
    Can't see that online anywhere.

    Trust me.
    6 years of riding Thredbo...Village trail is green, Supertrail is a mix, with some steep sections that do trip up beginners, especially when icy. The other thing to be aware of is The Kosi lift is occasionally restricted to more advanced skiers due usually to the lack of access to the basin t bar to get you to the start point of the Village Trail - Eagle (Evil) Way is not the nicest introduction to that side of the mountain at times. If this is the case, take the Snowgums lift, you can then access the Village Trail from lower.
     
  5. Dos

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    I'm not sure if my use of "Caption" is the right word. It's not on printed map. It's on the interactive map. Rd: http://www.thredbo.com.au then click on Interactive Map on the Top Right of the page.

    Hoovering your mouse over the trails then you see the so-called captions.
     
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  6. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ahhhh... I am on the iPad. Doesn't work for me.
    Will check it out on the other computer.
     
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    captainQ Hard Yards

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    Agreed LMB, the Eagle Way can be rather evil [​IMG] at times, especially for beginners and at those times when visibility is variable. The Friday morning before last(7/9), was one of those where snow was falling, a strong wind was blowing and swirling, and people were all over the show. Visibility would quickly change from being able to see in most directions, to only having vision to skier's left, then only to skier's right, then to total white out, where it's hard to tell up from down and if one is moving or not! [​IMG]

    At those times I choose a course / traverse close to the trees so as to have a point of reference and to avoid being hit by someone lost in a daze. That moment of whiteout can cause vertigo, I met a guy that day who had skied NZ earlier this season, who said he had to stop for 20 minutes on a run as the motion sickness from no horizon or trees in a poor visibity situation had got to him.
     
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    Hah! just this week in NZ trying to make my way down a bumpy blue trail in zero vis I stopped to re orientate /clear goggles, edged back into the fall line and thought I was slowly gliding along when in fact on checking I was at a standstill. very weird sensation.
     
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    A good hangover will help that feeling along.

    We had to recently rename Eagles Nest, "Evils Nest" for conditions described above. Have a pic somewhere that I'll post later.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    In all but the iciest of conditions I go under the chair these days ...it's not so much Eagle Way itself as everyone on it. Too many collision opportunities.
     
  11. Dos

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    I'll practice at the Cruiser first then try the Basin. After that some getting used to Village trail and if possible going to the very top and ride all the way down to Friday Flat.
     
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    Piste Again Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    It works fine on my Android. Doesn't your iPad do Flash? [​IMG]
     
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    I've never come down Village Trail, largely because from what I can make out it's mostly just narrow roadways linked together. Hardly thrilling.

    Up high it goes through some areas that can get pretty icy, and lower down it winds through trees and a couple of black runs peel off it, both of which could end up being a nasty trap for a beginner.

    Supertrail is steep but wide. For a beginner or low intermediate I'd get comfortable on Valley View (at Merritts) and in the Karels/Basin area first. Once you're comfortable with that, do Supertrail from Snowgums rather than from Kosi Chair and come down World Cup (off to the right just after you join the main part of Supertrail) - it's not as steep. Once that run rejoins supertrail, slide over towards Bunnywalk station and come down the left side of Supertrail where it's a gentler slope. This also gives you the option of heading back to Gunbarrel chair via Sundowner.

    You could also ride up High Noon, take the traverse and just do the bottom half of supertrail if you want to avoid the steepest bit.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hirarious [​IMG]
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    if you wanted to lap the bottom section taking Snowgums lift and getting off at midstation would make more sense than taking Sundowner to Gunbarrel, doing the traverse and lapping - although it would make it a longer stretch going via Gunbarrel.

    Actually, scratch that. Dos is progressing on a board...too much skating required, too many spots where a headwind will mean clipping out of bindings if speed is not high enough in that Gunbarrel to Supertrail traverse. Lapping Snowgums to midstation will give access to the bottom section and no flat spots or bottlenecks.
     
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    Snow Addict Part of the Furniture

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    I would suggest avoiding Sundowner where possible. It's a bottleneck for carnage, especially in the afternoon.
     
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    I was looking at this yesterday and can throw some light on the colour mystery. The trail map shows super trail in Orange and Village trail in green.
    [​IMG]

    On the mountain, there are guiding poles to help in poor visibility. Orange markers for SuperTrail and green markers for village trail...
    [​IMG][br]


    [​IMG]
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ha!! Sourmash! I never noticed them.
    Obviously I have seen marker sticks, but never noticed the color coding on those runs. Probably because it wasn't all that important to me in my decision making about where to ride.
    Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    Hahaha.

    Well, my Android doesn't do Flash. I didn't install it. Didn't see the need.
     
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    Oh yeah travel time. See you tomorrow Thredbo!
     
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    "Evils Nest" two Fridays ago...
    [​IMG]
     
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    Thredbo trail map, obviously! [​IMG]
     
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    Soup-er trail at the moment.
     
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    Fixed kind a not
     
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    Sorry what did you say?
     
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    Never mind I am a silly
     
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    Well done, that was the Friday that I was referring to in the earlier post regarding the vertigo sensation.
     
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