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Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by Me+3, Aug 19, 2020.
Schools are a real community feature imo
Current oval site is crying out for use as a combined school and "town sports" precinct.
And IMO that is because of how the resorts use the town. Jindy is not a resort. There is some justification I guess, in that the town benefits from the tourism that is focussed on the resorts.
I'll be surfing that in two weeks time. Yeehaa!
A gaol. (jail)
90% of the people going to this school do not live in town. I don't have the figures but I would expect that most already catch a bus to school.
What happened to the one that burnt down last year? I am out of the loop on this and just know there was a fire and heard they were not re-opening.
They have no choice. And the Thredbo kids have a decent bus. Same applies to kids from all over the place. And the Berridale bus would not be allowed anywhere else. All part of our wonderful, equitable education system.
Initially I was wondering what the town of Casino had to do with this.
We could revisit gold mining.
If you look at the plan for expansion of Jindabyne, Sport & Rec will be in the centre of town, do up the tip road and it will be quicker to get there from East Jindy, Kalkite etc. Whatever they decide they better do it soon. To build a new school from the ground up will take at least 5 years, by which time the present school population will have increased by 50% at least. The existing school is overcrowded now, where are these kids going to go? I heard the other day that Monaro High is losing numbers, maybe they will take the overflow, if you think it's too far to catch the bus to Leesville, how do you feel about Cooma? Meanwhile Pork Barilaro keeps throwing money at the existing white elephant and does his best to keep the population rising.
Bill is onto that already.
I doubt it. The only outcome of being in town was being dropped at the shops on the way to school for a 2nd breakfast, which was not meant to happen. And in senior years someone ducking to the shops for food, which they were not meant to do and often got busted for. I don't understand why having a school away from the shopping hub would be a problem.
5 years to build a school? tell him he;s dreaming. I can see 1 year in arguing about location/design/DA approvals/politics etc build time would be 12-16 months max - depending on size.
Depending on the car we are driving and where we are going we use the tip road to get to Sport & Rec. We have put 2 holes in the sump of the same car on that road so we think it needs an upgrade!
Prior to Jindy becoming a central school all these kids went to Monaro with longer travel times.
Berridale had kids go to both schools. Causes some divisions in the town which is not the best outcome.
If you give the oval to the school that will bar everyone else from being able to use it.
lots of public schools these days open facilities to the public out of school hours, and facility sharing is increasing during school hours.
depends on transport
state government policy is supposedly meant to encourage walking
Ok, the clock has started today. And remember, it's the government we are talking about here so it will be at least that before a decision is made. And Skichanger, did you miss the bit about "do up the tip road"?
There is so much that is wrong about what you are saying. You are making these broad statements with no explanation and refusing to consider the details of this particular situation.
The issue is the site is not big enough for what is required for a high school. In 2009 when my eldest started there it was already inadequate. Now it must be even worse. Reality is another site needs to be found. I am sure Sport & Rec is not the only option. And in the scheme of things it is not that far out of town.
I really don't understand why anyone wants a school next to the shopping hub of the town. In fact as a parent I didn't want the school there. It is a school. It is not a business.
SMGS is on the edge of town and that seems to work. There are lots of other schools, both private and public, located on the edge of towns that work. Actually look at where Monaro is.
I am pretty sure I said it needs an upgrade so I am agreeing with this.
There’s even a bus that goes around town. Every parent I know wanted the school moved.
I've read through the whole thread, some good ideas here,
I've stolen the best ones i think the following...
It all starts with..
A vehicle bypass around the town for through traffic.
This allows for a total redesign of the way the actual town feels,
a focus on more views and access to the waterfront = better property and amenities
such as greatly improved
Pedestrian connectivity between Old shops, caravan park, claypits and lakeside.
A restaurant development on the Mitre 10 corner with terrace views
I also like this idea..
Burn down Snowy Valley Motel and build a park and viewing terrace
Basically get rid of all the servo's and ugly building on the waterfront side of town,
Add a great big jetty and create a waterfront area of retail + dining.
Add in a water park with slides etc for summer.
Put in Boat ramp.
A zipper line from above SMGS to the Sailing Club
a nice golf course up top of the hills could be a good investment i think.
perhaps even along the road to ski tube/thredbo, but not too far from town.
splitting the schools probably needs to happen too.
I think the buses improved while my kids were still at school. My youngest was on the front page of the Post showing 3 to a seat and no seat belts. I have a classic photo of her as a year 6 leader accosting Barilaro at a school morning tea. The body language from him being accosted by 140cm kid is great
Gee, some kids even ride their bikes to school from Lakewood. The school needs to move and the Primary and High be separated. In Sydney some kids catch 2 trains and 2 buses to get to their schools.
So after my various other rants, what Jindy needs differs depending on who you are. There are lots of locals who have little to do with the tourism and the snow industry. Many of them would quite happily see all the tourists go away. I can see both sides of this so I am not on either side of that arguement.
However there are some basics missing that others take for granted. The 2 big ones for me are adequate schools and adequate aged care facilities.
Next is staff affordable staff accommodation.
Once the area has these basics then the other things can be considered.
By choice or by necessity? Big difference.
It's actually very normal in Sydney. Jindy is so small, some people think that SMGS is out of town.
Wouldn’t want my kids riding along the Barry Way
Lots of rural kids start driving “early” to get from home to the end of the dirt road for the bus.
Great if they have because the one my kids caught was unsafe. They could not get their heads around the unfairness of the luxury bus the Thredbo kids had while they had a death trap with no heating. Yep no heating in the snow!
As a local parent of four young kids would not bother me for high schoolers who are capable of getting around towncon their own, much prefer central for primary though particularly with extra curriculur activities thrown in!
Aplogoes for claiming local status, lets call me a long term permanent blowin
Like I said by choice or necessity. Sydney people have no concept of having 1 and only one school to choose from. Opening another can of worms here, but I think it is wrong for the rest of us to be subsidizing travel to anything but the local school. And as for the rudeness, the refusing to give people actually paying fares seats etc. When country kids were getting almost nothing how is any of this fair?
Sport and Rec is actually only about 1.5km from town itself as the crow flies with most residences even closer. If the SAP does anything useful, it should create walkable/rideable off road routes to sport and rec if a high school goes there. If it cant manage that then it has failed.
As it tends to be in a number of regional towns.
Primary school central.
High school on the outskirts of town.
Some of the local buses in the outer ring of Sydney are from the late 1980s.
So suffering the same low priority as rural areas. Actually there are probably people who class that as rural.
Within 2km distance from one of the largest train interchanges in Sydney and also one of the largest Westfield shopping centres.
Shouldn’t be too hard. Pretty sure there’s already a rough rideable track out there.
That’s not an argument in favour of longer and more complex school commutes.
Is there an inherent challenge in shared infants and high schools?
Space for starters and then some more things.
As it is currently for all the kids that live out of town unless their parents collect them after. Until mine had licences they didn’t get to stay in town very often.
It doesn't have to be shorter.
Leave the Central School where it is and make it primary only, then build a high school on the land on the corner of the Barry Way and Kosci Rd. I believe that strip behind Clyde st is crown land. It is close to town, the oval and the primary school.
So 60% of kids who got a lift / drove or walked and cycled.
Lol. Is there anyone on here who really is a "local"?
I heard they were thinking of moving the HS to out sport and rec way.
Primary staying where it is.
my lodge is there, with a few others
where is this Crown land?
Yep. That's why all the traffic still goes through the middle of Goulburn and ignores the bypass.