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What does Jindabyne really need ? .... your wish list

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by Me+3, Aug 19, 2020.

  1. BlueHue

    BlueHue One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The site is steep for its entire area, has biodiversity and recreational value and is a significant piece of parkland in the centre of town. It is not suitable.
     
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    crackson Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Laundromat.

    Carwash.

    Chicken shop.

    2nd supermarket like we used to have.

    Bypass could go berridale, kalkite, waste point.
     
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  3. Billy_Buttons

    Billy_Buttons Que Sera, Sera Ski Pass: Gold

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    The vast majority of the tourist population is based in Jindy town, so a Jindy bypass is pretty irrelevant.
     
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  4. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    This was my thought too.
     
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  5. BlueHue

    BlueHue One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Are suggesting you don't want Perishet skiers in town?
     
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  6. BlueHue

    BlueHue One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not really a bypass, more a way of taking the heaviest traffic away from the town to open up options for a pedestrianised town centre with good links to the lake.
     
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  7. Me+3

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    Recreational value ??? what ? how ?
    Please enlighten me on how this "significant piece of parkland' currently gets used.
     
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  8. BlueHue

    BlueHue One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Walking and biking trails. Quite popular for those that live nearby! Id suggest you would be hard pushed to convinceny locals to put a school there and i suspect the bean counters would rapidly veto yhe idea due to cost of building on a steep piece of land. It remains undeveloped for a reason or two.
     
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  9. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Key word 'locals' not tourists.
     
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  10. Me+3

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    It may remain undeveloped because someone's never tried or had the guts to try.
    It's a prime piece of real estate.
    Overlooks the lake.

    I'd suggest the key issue on this block, aside from it's sloping nature, would undoubtedly be the road connections & interface with Kosi/Barry Way. Transport NSW are extremely challenging to deal with.

    Not building/developing because it's a sloping block is such a weak excuse in this day & age.
     
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    skull One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    what???

    I love morning showers, gym then shower with a 60 second cold rinse to finish off. Wakes me right up. Not doing that in the morning (like when we are camping) and I am slow to get started.
     
  12. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Me+3 I'm not sure why you are so angry?
     
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  13. BlueHue

    BlueHue One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not everything has to be developed.
     
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    But...it's got views. The locals should not be so entitled. Besides the school kids would really appreciate that view. ;)
     
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  15. Me+3

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    not angry at all. apologies if coming across that way.
    just challenging some of the opinions provided.
    this thread has provided some great insight so far and hopefully it continues.
    The whole "it can't be done" flavoured comments with no factual reasons supporting ones view doesn't really register with me that's all.
    My occupation is involved with the construction/infrastructure/development world so I come across the negative attitude towards change/development a lot. Both with Clients and Authorities.
     
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  16. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Honestly if that area WAS to be developed if would be much better as apartments for the shortage of staff housing!
     
  17. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah but you are challenging things that the people who live here don't want.

    You seem to be very frustrated with Jindabyne as a whole.
     
  18. telecrag

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    On schools, Bredbo has the town on one side of the highway, and the school on the other.

    I think it sends a clear message!
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    What if that was all built into the hill, so the mtb track could stay, and the staff could be like hobbits!
     
  20. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm a genius I tells ya! A genius!
     
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  21. Billy_Buttons

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    To replace what Kirwan Apartments next door were built for, then sold off. Gawd how things go in circles. :headbang:
     
  22. Billy_Buttons

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    Yeah, stop riding over my toes whilst I sit on MY chair!
     
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  23. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    This is true...

    It didn't realise they weren't once privately owned by Thredbo.
     
  24. Billy_Buttons

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    That is why Kirwan Close is now a camping cul-de-sac by the vanlife people. It has an extra large turning circle for the once coaches to pick-up/drop-off the staff.
     
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    Jindy really needs a online forum. One where residents and tourists can share ideas.


    :whistle:
     
  26. climberman

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    But it’s changing in many areas to be more access for the public.
     
  27. Me+3

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    i'm not the one who suggested it';s a possible place for a school, but I can't see why it couldn't be.
    To me, the lower part of the Lot facing Kosi Way is screaming out for a service station.
    Not frustrated at all.
    I love Jindy.
    I think it's a great town.
    I love coming down there every year as a tourist to enjoy a winter skiing holiday with my family.
    We're even in the throws of organising a trip with 6 other families over the Xmas school holiday break to show them around.
    Does Jindy need some revitalising/improving - yeah I think might but that's just my opinion.

    Some locals will be against change/development - I get that. Their allowed to be.
    Some locals will be all for some change/development - I get that too.

    * I'm based in Newcastle.
     
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  28. Billy_Buttons

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    Please pay here...cachink! :)
     
  29. Me+3

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    SAP website ?
     
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  30. climberman

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    It more that utilising schools is using an already available resource.
     
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  31. BlueHue

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    Facts? The site is steep and will cost more to build on, taxpayers will want value for money for a school, the site has biodiversity values higher up... fact again. Fact the site is well used for walking and biking by the local community. There is a difference between resisting change for the sake of no change and wanting change but done in away that brings real benefits to the locals and visitors alike. Losing something of value to bring that change when it can be done somewhere nearby on a better site that is not currently used by the local community in my view is far from an ideal outcome I don't buy that this site is taxpayer value for a school when the large sport and rec site with some suitable school sites is little more than a km away. Some apartments on the lower pine section perhaps might make a good return for developers given the views. The other factor to consider is foot access, its gonna take alot of ramps for a student with a disability to get around that site.

    Im getting the feeling you might be part of or have links to the SAP process and deliberately playing devils advocate
     
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    I agree. It's a great use of valuable resources and considering it is public money. Our local primary schools used to have the best public fete's with fantastic rides nearly equal to the RAS Easter Show, since adam was a boy. It all came crashing down after the GFC. Deemed too dangerous and extreme insurances required that was totally unaffordable.
     
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    Pretty common in Japan. Lots of pensions have big boilers they only run during those hours. Something to check before you book if it is important to you as it can be a bit of a surprise.
     
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    Oh it may well be the case that soap is not readily available. But it is such an essential tool in stopping the spread of Covid-19 that it makes sense to make it available.
     
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    Building on a steep site - don’t for so many reasons
     
  36. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Have you built in a steep site?
     
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    Love the idea, wanted to do it un Sydney, dream of doing this for so nany reasons but just tooooo hard.
     
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    Every place needs a proper South Indian Veg. restaurant.
     
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    School would fit up behind gippsland st.
     
  40. Me+3

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    I'm getting the feeling you might be part of or have links to the SAP process and deliberately playing devils advocate[/QUOTE]
    I can unequivocally confirm that I do not.

    Yes I have actually. Multiple times.
    Have also built on some more challenging sites which make building on a sloping site a breeze in comparison.
    Yes it has it problems, but it shouldn't be a deterrent.
     
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    Are you an architect?
     
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    Are you an architect?

    no i'm not.... but not sure why that's funny.
     
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    I think chookfooter is teasing about architects and their penchant for the difficult (disclaimer - related closely to two architects, have around four of them as friends).
     
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    No, I was more referring to their penchant for not caring how much of other people's money they spend.
     
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    Yeah at least double, if not triple what they tell you it will cost.

    Or repeatedly telling you things can be done, which you are sure they cannot. Then when the tradie tells you and them it cannot be done, they act like you were the one trying to do the impossible. Engineers really have no idea do they?

    I doubt I will ever use an architect again unless absolutely forced to.
     
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    I'm pretty sure they all skip Function over Form 101 thru 401 and head to the Art Gallery for inspiration instead
     
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    There comes a point wrt degree of difficulty where it is not rational to do something.
     
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    An architect would say the engineer and tradie are looking for the easiest (for them, not you), not the best.
    I wouldn't do a new build without one, but hey, I'm pre-conditioned LOL
     
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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm the engineer. There were so many impractical things that the architect proposed. Lots that did not meet the required standard eg, the ss wire configuration he wanted on the balustrades.
    We would have site talks. Architect and the builder would decide what we were doing. Once they left the site foreman and I would really decide what we were doing.