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What to do with the Leichardt T-Bar

Discussion in 'Perisher' started by Skiing Gus, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Is that lift passes or accomodation? I really think season passes are very good value these days. It’s the extras, accomodation, park entry, etc that make it expensive. If I didn’t live here, I wouldn’t ski here.
     
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  2. Skiing Gus

    Skiing Gus Hard Yards

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    NZSki has a srping pass - unlimited skiing for $379 or a five day pass for $339. Not bad considering a lift pass is worth $119 for a days' skiing. Those rates are also in NZD so also a bit cheaper...

    If I didn't purchase an annual pass, live in Canberra and have access to a lodge, NZ would be an extremely tempting proposition
     
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  3. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Agree 100%. My favourite run at Perisher.
     
  4. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    In years gone by Perisher had a spring pass. But that was when season passes were $1200.
     
  5. Zimbooo

    Zimbooo One of Us

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    Spring Passes, accom, car hire, no entry fees.....goes on.
    Paid $560Aus for two for 12 days riding (unlimited spring pass). Free food / lessons loaded onto pass every 3 days. Car hire at $22 per day for Nissan Wingroad station wagon. Fully self contained (full kitchen) accom for $120 per night. Saved thousands, apple for apples!
     
  6. skull

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    1.59 here so not much of a difference around the towns these days.
     
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  7. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Where did you ski?
     
  8. Zimbooo

    Zimbooo One of Us

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    Remarkables and Coronet. Snow was superb spring conditions (able to ski whole mtn by late morning), straight onto lifts every day.
     
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  9. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cool. So just recently? I’ll be looking for other options in the future, NZ could feature.
     
  10. Zimbooo

    Zimbooo One of Us

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    Yep, went over for the beginning of Spring returned on the 15th Sept just gone. Wish we were still there..........forecast looks great this week for more new snow after 60cm last week!
     
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  11. IAB

    IAB A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    $1.68 for 91 octane in Caringbah today. If you want 98 octane that'll be $1.91 a litre (please).
     
  12. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I just buy the cheapest. Which isn’t very cheap anymore :mad:
     
  13. Peter Piotr Pumpkin Eater

    Peter Piotr Pumpkin Eater Early Days

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    no problem :p
     
  14. Peter Piotr Pumpkin Eater

    Peter Piotr Pumpkin Eater Early Days

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    did that many times... was so much fun like a long discovery trail type run but better fall and more choice
     
  15. MisterMxyzptlk

    MisterMxyzptlk Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Noooooo!!!!That's free live theatre while you're sitting on the Express!!!
     
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  16. Aractus

    Aractus Early Days

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  17. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly Backwards to the future! Ski Pass: Gold

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    The ones who don't spend their snow dollars wisely are the ones who use travel agents to book an $8K+ week at Perisher for a couple.
     
  18. Kopite

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    So the chair doesn’t go further than the existing T-Bar? Or does it go to mid station?
     
  19. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Pretty much same spot.
    Reduces the chance of windhold
     
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  20. Kopite

    Kopite One of Us

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    I can see the windhold argument, but it does seem a limited lift to me. Better money making Happy a duplex and investing in mount P chair replacement and/or speeding up Pretty Valley?
     
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  21. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    It takes the load off Happy
    It has no need to go to mid.
    Its a lift to move people so they can get back to PFV
     
  22. skifree

    skifree Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    New chair is on old Tbar line to avoid time & cost for EIS. And to avoid possible wind hold issues for a lift that needs to run when the Quad is blown sideways.

    As for Pretty Valley either fill it with Snow 2.0 debris and run XC trails on it or turn it into a Super Pipe.
     
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  23. Kopite

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    Pretty is great for beginners, just stuffed up by the worlds most tedious lift.
     
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  24. Skiing Gus

    Skiing Gus Hard Yards

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    If they put a quad chair in there, I'm fairly certain ski school would take their kids there!
     
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  25. MisterMxyzptlk

    MisterMxyzptlk Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    They do now
     
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  26. Kopite

    Kopite One of Us

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    They do, but grudgingly.
     
  27. Aractus

    Aractus Early Days

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    Yeah of course, it's the same problem with the Freedom Quad - stops in the wrong spot when it should go to the peak. Still I don't think anyone's going to miss riding the Leichardt T-bar.
     
  28. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Quite happy to ride t-bars. Prefer them over most of the Perisher lifts.
     
  29. Ted Harper

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    I will miss it. I liked it even more (back in the day, get off my lawn, etc) when it was a self-loading T-bar with those long-shanked T's.

    I'll miss the rope tow too. I suspect more people will miss the current lifts than realise it now when the first wind hold day stops the new quad chair...
     
  30. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    It's going to be a shit fight all season long.

    It will no longer be an experienced rider lift, so overflow from Happy Valley will use it. Turning left off the top brings you down a very gentle slope, all the way to the bottom. It will be Beginners Paradise. The Park Rats will be using it. In typical Perisher Style, there will be no one marshaling the quads, so most chairs will be half empty.

    I hope I'm wrong. But I don't see how.
     
  31. hipo

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    Gotta agree about the old self loader. Wouldn't mind seeing them back in a couple of stratagic places.
     
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  32. skifree

    skifree Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I started missing it as of Tuesday.:( :cry:
     
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  33. hipo

    hipo One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The concept is to service the park and beginners / ski school on the leichhardt loop. And watch the cleft turn into another goats gully.
     
  34. BlueHue

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    Yep this seems like pretty much the idea along with relieving queues returning from Mt P at peak times. I'm happy with the t-bar and if queues get bad returning from Mt P the rope tow provided a crowd free option. I can understand from Perisher's perspective commercially though. Their market is families/intermediates and park and this will lift will service that well.
     
  35. Bogong

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    I have an interest in antique ski lifts (someone has to), but I've only visited Perisher a few times and I'm not totally savvy about all the lifts there. So a couple of questions:

    Was the Leichhardt self loading T-bar a total disaster to the same extent self loaders were elsewhere, especially at Thredbo and Baw Baw? At those places words like "carnage" pop up in reference to them... or were Perisher skiers a bit smarter and mostly able to handle the idea?

    My understanding is that the Home rope tow was technically a handle tow with plastic grips attached to the cable. Please let me know if I'm right about that.
    Thanks.
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  36. Legs Akimbo

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    My recollection is that Leichhardt was a lot less chaotic than Sponars or Antons. I can't think why. Maybe Perisher skiers were a lot more familiar with T-bars generally. Before it was Leichhardt it was called the Self Loader (at least informally) so people had some warning of what to expect. A lot of the carnage at Thredbo was numpties just standing there in the hope that a lifty would magically appear and load them, in spite of the complete absence of lifties in the vicinity.
     
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  37. Ted Harper

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  38. Bogong

    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    It's interesting that they're keeping the old "Explorer" name for the new lift, rather than taking the opportunity of having a new name for a new lift. I would have thought that naming theme from 50 years ago would be considered a bit daggy these days, but I guess explorer names are part of the Perisher identity. They even have a special logo for the new chair.

    [​IMG]
     
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  39. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I like keeping the explorer concept for the lift names.
     
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  40. nfip

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    yep. me too.
    Imagine if they called it something like ... Freedom Chair.
    and it actually managed to completely grid lock that part of the hill......
     
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  41. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    They deal in irony?
     
  42. nfip

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    Epic irony .
     
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  43. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly Backwards to the future! Ski Pass: Gold

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    What you did there...
     
  44. Marquise de Kappy

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    Hey Brians trust,
    So where exactly will the top of the new lift be? Trying to visualise exactly. If you get it up, would you be high enough to get across yabby flats and into Goats gully on a board? Any advice would be appreciated!
     
  45. Seafm

    Seafm Too far from the snow Ski Pass: Gold

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    I was of the impression that it would be the same location as the existing unload. Any higher and wind hold would become an issue. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  46. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yup
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  47. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I can get from top unload to goats?
     
  48. robbo mcs

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    Yep. I usually go across to bullwheel run, to avoid the goats carnage;)
     
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  49. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    When there is decent snow..I try to get high , just scoot under the big rock near the duplex. Across the top of the park and down PFV
     
  50. nfip

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    can get to Interceptor and avoid fv all-together ;)