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What to do with the Leichardt T-Bar

Discussion in 'Perisher' started by Skiing Gus, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    *going home
    ** park by bins and try to get to sundeck, then side of pipe, over bridge and unclip by car.
     
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    nfip Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    same.
    going home.
    Brumby T
    then bomb it and skate to the Calf
    or further.
     
  3. Mitchell Pearce

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    nfip Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    reinforcement for a concrete column.
    top station ?
     
  5. Mitchell Pearce

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    I think so.
     
  6. Mitchell Pearce

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    A couple of shots of the bottom.

     
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  7. Normo

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    Thought they might have done a bit more by now...........don't they know it'll be snowing soon?

    :)
     
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    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Observing ski field developments over the past couple of decades, (ski lifts, lodges, hotels, even Hotham airport), it seems that they always slack off and don't do much in November and December, so there's always a mad rush in April and even May to finish things.

    Now I appreciate the companies building these things are not a bunch of clueless, inexperienced amateurs, so I guess it's planned that way. Perhaps the unseen things like foundations or excavations take longer than non builders/engineers like us expect them to?
     
  9. IAB

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    Feels steeper than it looks from that last photo when you're riding the t.
     
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    It's really quite simple: all tradies & subies go to Bali, Thai, Noosa or Whitsundies in Dec/Jan - while a few really poor /new starters head to Rosebud, Cowes or Surfcoast.

    So it's really Feb or more likely March before there's any staff available. And the few bucking this trend would have to charge at holiday rates.

    Meanwhile weekend rates are being phased out for low income jobs because they're "like any other day" according to Scomo & big business. Go figs. (No I'm not one of this latter group but I suspect many of our kids will be - poor buggers !!)
     
  11. nfip

    nfip Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    even if the Trades want to work thru the issue is general shut-down of all the major suppliers over Dec/ Jan.
    In this case concrete and re-inforcement steel.
    Most jobs tho always appear to go in leaps and bounds .
    nothing much seems to happen then it all happens at once.
    then nothing looks like is being done , then all of a sudden there's a heap to be seen.
     
  12. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    A lot of chair construction is pre-fabricated. One day there are only footings. Then there is a whirr of helicopters. At the end of the next day all towers are in place. Same with top and bottom stations (although a bit longer than a day).
     
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    Yep, that is the way it goes. They expect the chair components to be there around the end of Feb and could get the pylons up in a day by Helicopter. Once the footings are in it is a big meccano set so by Easter it should be well and truly taking shape.
     
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    Any photos, updates on where they are at with the new lift? Looking at the top right of this cam shot (through the gap in the trees) there seems to be a top station and possible tower being built.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. hipo

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    See that the new chair is 490m long with a lift of 121m vert. making it about 50m shorter than the V8 in front Valley.
    Would this be the shortest chair in Aust??
     
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    Friday Flat?
     
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    Big D at Hotham?

    edit: according to the ski lift directory, Big D is 396m. Friday Flat is 448m.
     
  18. Bogong

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    Try Selwyn. There was an even shorter chairlift at Mt Buffalo that ran until that resort closed down in 2006.
     
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    Earlystarter double at the cow

    296m length, 42m vert
     
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    Don't be such a spoil sport, that mound will add at least 5m to the top :thumbs:
     
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    which is very important some days ;)
     
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  22. hipo

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    Gee, yep. Didn't even enter my mind. Actually the only time I've ever ridden it was some years back when I managed all lifts in a day. Must do that again this year.
     
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    I'm in! Always good for a laugh *

    * Especially if you stop at every mountain restaurant for a beer as you go around
     
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    I’m told careful planning is required to achieve this.

    Luckily there are a few sleeps in which to do this.:thumbs:
     
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    beer!!!!!! stuff that. thats for the kids.....jagemeister - the stuff of mount'n men. but I'll do that on different day . used to do the jagemiester run back in the 70's - first to the bar ordered, last to the bar paid. skis had to be on! Got banned for some reason I cant remember:D
     
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    I thought this was a thread on old leichardt t bar .build a simple resort on a south facing hill at jindy with snowmaking And a slushie machine . make sure there is a railpark and a pub with buses running regularly to town Have a lifted toboggan area like at Perisher and selwyn . Will keep a lot of people out of the national park too. A couple of spots that come to mind are around crackenback farm and lake crackenback near ski tube
     
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  27. hipo

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    Gotta ramble on about somethum while waiting in the queue:)
     
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    Good one , yes I'm pretty sure it's on the table have read about options somewhere here perhaps.
    Corin Forest near Cbr is a good model .
     
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    Bit further out of town around Grosses Plain there is some fairly high terrain, frost valleys perfect for snowmaking at around 1200-1400m or Ingebirah State Forest with gentle slopes up to 1650m with enough area above 1500m to build a Selwyn scaled resort above snowline. Many sites with good south to south easterly aspects bordering KNP with one or two freehold areas going up to 1500m give or take. A bit dry on this side of the hills though, would need to use the new snowmaking at any temperature in containers method and combine that with Selwyn's approach of snowmaking on pretty much every groomer.

    Access from the Barry Way would be difficult, would probably take longer to access than Thredbo, but if it could be done, could make an alternative for newbies/snowplayers to take pressure off resorts.
     
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    That mound at the top actually looks useful:) It looks like you will be able to unload straight ahead, which was not possible on the old t-bar. Should spit you out on yabby flats, where the mini terrain park is. You will be able to goleft and right as well;)
     
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    There is a rumour that they are calling the new offload ..... "Sideways Sitzmark"
     
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    that's interesting.
    I had heard it is to be called "skidmarkz" due to the amount of anticipated beginner traffic .
     
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    Still not quite high enough to get to mid-station but with some better signage beginners will figure out how to get to Happy, Front and Pretty Valleys from the top of the new Leichhardt Quad. Perhaps they will need permission from NSWP to widen the upper, steeper and often slushy part of the trail (left at top of V8) down to Pretty Valley Double as it can be intimidating for beginners and frustrating for those more experienced trying to get past safely? It would make for a very good Green Run circuit for beginners - Think of a Beginners Sella Ronda! Front Valley V8, lap a few times, up Perisher Quad to Mid Station and left down Happy Valley, lap (learn/practice T-Bar perhaps?), around to Leichhardt Quad, exit right and then drop left past top of V8 down to Pretty Valley Double, lap, down to interceptor and across to Pleasant Valley, lap, down Copperhead Road to Pleasant Valley Double, down to Mid station, down Goats Gully or Front Valley, repeat.
    We have to understand that crowds will continue to grow, so one of our better solutions to crowding is to spread the load more evenly. If we make it easier and more enjoyable for beginners to move around the resort, it will leave "the rest" to more experienced skiers and boarders.
     
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    Cool! By comparison, not a lot of people use the Carpark Double Chair from Guthega. My crew do and we regularly refer to it as the double black offload!! It can be very knarly, particularly first tracks after a melt/freeze. There are steps for those that shit themselves and lifties are very willing to stop to let you off but I reckon the stairs are worse on those days - very icy. You often get lifties wishing you luck because it's too dangerous for them to prep the slope. There are a few days each year when the heart rate gets an early morning kickstart - the double black exit off the carpark double!
     
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    The best way to "spread the load more evenly" is to replace Pretty Valley with a chair that goes to ..... the top.
     
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    Going to take a walk up there early Sunday. I see interesting progress. It’s possible that the top and base towers and associated infrastructure are being positioned by crane. The other towers by heli.

    At least 2 towers are no longer in the secured area in the car park. They have also started to dig between HV and the new chair. Could not tell if it was power or snowmaking.





    PV today was an absolute “bee hive of activity”.

    Bridgeworks down below SH. Road works at the SH bends and up towards PV. Car park being patched. Power provider trucks everywhere and National Parks planting shrubs... must have been a few hundred workers all up.

    New roofing on PV centre being installed.



    As regards the old TBar....... back to the future and installed next year at the burning log......guesswork at best! But they sure need something to clear folks out of there.
     
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    I's sure you remember , back to the future, the Calf was once a duplex.
    Hence the tidy fall line skiers left .
     
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    Yes, I always think the same but dare not dream too much, though I suspect if the speed was increased from SLOWEST IN THE WORLD to something more substantial more people would ski that valley! There are some really fun tree runs off both left and right faces when the snow is on but the superrrrr slooooow speed of the lift makes it unbearable after 2 or 3 runs.
     
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    I love the idea of a Corin Forest style snowplay area and maybe a mini-park closer to Jindy.

    I say up the back of Penderlea here: https://goo.gl/maps/Ezx6qhdCf9G2 1200m elevation. South-west aspect and shade. Genuinely closer. Already has some sort of road.
     
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    Corin forest have had a longish carpet for a few years and possibly got a second carpet recently.

    Way back in the 90s they had a platter, but they've never had anything like a T-bar.
     
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    Oh yes sorry I guess I meant something a bit faster than the carpets, and more clearing for a longer run. Would be pretty epic IMO
     
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    Looks like another tower in today from the cam. Seems to be all on track for the season.
     
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    Someone just posted a pic on Jindy FB of the choppa!
     
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    It won't be of Leichhardt, but it is worth chasing footage of helis putting towers in on YouTube. It is very efficient.
     
  46. Donzah

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    Aye.
    "get to the chopper"
     
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    It WAS of Leichardt and they were put in by chopper today.
     
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    Yeah, but if you want to see the process chase the videos.
     
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