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Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Ricardo64, Jul 26, 2018.
depends when I last had curry/jalapenos.
About 60 grams empty.
Jeez mate, you want at least 120gms empty, why id fill that up with just one backcountry meal!
Yikes you poo a lot. That's a 10l drybag and liner.
Haha! I actually use plakky bags, and a sealed tupperware container. Some sawdust in the bags. But the ol pipe bombs are standard I thought.
I also carry that kit for van, just in case. @Untele-whippet has moved up in the world, his van is equipped with a full ensuite!
Just replace the drivers seat with a rafting porta potty ;-)
On the way in or on the way out??
or rubber gloves and tent moisture sponge thingy.
Thoughts on Cilogear vs Hyperlite Mountain Gear packs?
Looks like the dude has an inflatable jumping castle for use over near Watson’s Crags!
Personally I prefer cilogear. A student of mine has an hmg and it does look nice though.
But!!!!! Cilogear have about the worst customer service in the world. You'd think that having five of their packs might mean they lifted their game a little. But no, it is awful.
Leave the inflatable girlfriend at home. Or better yet, fill her with helium.
i am using a hyperlite porter 75 l i like it a lot, very light and comfy. partner has ule, its good too. in action in dolomites below. fine for ski touring been ok for carrying skis without $$ modification
If they are any good why do you need customer service?
Cos they build them to order... getting them to acknowledge the order is the challenge.
Aha, thanks for addressing my ignorance.
I’ll have to check your pack out next time we meet.
Can never have too many packs.
I'm probably missing the finer points of more recent exchange, but back to the question....what I take is what I need.
Tent and rucksack are heaviest items. I have a MYO rucksack at 1.5kg, and only ski with simple 75 mm bindings with no cables/quick release etc, and try to keep tent weight under 1.5 kg for 1.
Weight is probs 17-20kg for a weekend, adding snow shoes, crampons etc. don't bother weighing stuff now - just try to minimise everything.
If you are hiking into a planned white season base camp then food and briquette drops in late Green season can be useful. Other wise I usually have a family sedan strapped to my torso.
IMO if I am going to carry 20kg of gear up the mountain, I am going to stay there till I enjoy every last piece of equipment and am tired of it. Then gingerly make my way down again.
By the way I failed to mention I do pack according to the mountain and its condition, as this trip was to be with my daughter which seems to have piked on me. We did plan initially to do the razorback and stay near Fed Hut for the sanitary infrastructure that the females like. However after consoling the wise and all seeing oracle of the brains trust I settled on Mt Stirling again and base camp close to bluff spur. The oncoming week is going to bless us with some very nice fresh powder if the rain stays away.
At the end of the day I don't want to feel like a pack mule, I would rather enjoy my time ..
If you have already snow camped at the Bluff Spur hut then give the King Spur hut a go in the snow . Even closer to TBJ and well worth it if the lower mtn. is reporting excellent snow conditions along the Circuit road is the Razorback hut.
Yet another option is the Howqua Gap hut. It depends on what kind of terrain on Mt. Stirling you wish to be close to. The upper River spur has superb secluded snow camping spots but no hut, no water tank and no drop loo.
Thanks Tee, I am aiming for downhill terrain like Stanley Bowl and any other areas I can find or you care to mention. Would be great to catch up with you and have a cuppa that way I can put a face to your words.
If you can hack having no hut etc. and there is a good weather window then you will have the upper River spur to yourself for snow camping. It is not that far to the summit pole line from the upper River spur , where it diverges from the Howqua gap track.
One trip only packs in Tas before they are leaking. Unless fabric tech has ompua shit yon since I last looked at this stuff.
But prolly OK for light weight K2K tootles
Daypacks if you pack poorly. But these are all multi day packs in my opinion.
Cam Honan gives the HMG southwest (the first on the list) the thumbs up after bashing his way through southwest TAS and many other places all over the world. https://www.thehikinglife.com/2016/11/review-hyperlite-mountain-gear-2400-southwest-backpack/
I have used the HMG myself up Hannels, Lady Northcote, all over the Budawangs and also Namadgi and Scabby range scrub. It has stood up perfectly and going strong on 3 years now.
Lightweight and durable fabrics have progressed a lot in the past decade for sure.
Still water tight?
It doesn’t have any holes except the massive one at the top.
I don’t truly believe any bag is really waterproof. Keep your down and other important stuff in a dry bag / liner. I would never pack anything straight into the bag and expect it to stay dry.
The beauty of these newish materials like DCF and Xpac is they don’t hold on to the water. They shed it, unlike canvas or cordura which tend to soak it up.
Sounds promising, just need to see decent (I mean really proper) hip belts to get me over the line.
I understand what you are saying. I am used to thin ones now and they work with the weights I carry but I do miss the hipbelt on my old One Planet when I have 5 days of food in the bag.
I have some light weight packs i use in the Flinders but the flimsy hip belts are no good. Especially when you start out with 16 litres of water.
I’ve got a Granite Gear Alpine Vapor ( no longer made) that I’ve used for years as a climbing pack. Really durable and comfy (big hip belt)
This IMO looks good as a lightish weight pack from GG
I've been using HMG Porter for 4 + years-
Kid's school camp
Lots of hiking
It's never leaked.
So bag packed for the weekend group of three heading out. Given the weather I’m taking the beast, my saleva extreme dome, at 4.5kg it ain’t light but it doesn’t budge in a storm.
All up +1 pack will be 13.5kg mine closer to 15kg and these weights include wine and schnapps. We also went a little heavier on the food as We took a few snacks.
Also packed two sets of skins kicker and full g3 as this trip is about testing gear.
Not included in the weight are a few saw blades I’ll leave at the hut and skins.
These Swiss bags really are impressive for what they hold
How on earth did you get to these weights...I can't even think about taking my bourbon, I'm at bare bones at 19kg
I should also add none of our gear is ultra light.
About five years ago most of my gear needed replacing so I weighed everything individually and brought new gear based on weight (plus performance). I then listed everything marked off what wasn’t used on a hike and I was ruthless.
Everything in our pack will be used.
I haven’t done any bc yet but talk of 20kg packs being heavy makes me wonder how little you must carry.
Do you even lift, bro?
But seriously, getting sub 20 packs is getting pretty light. So either light weight gear or keeping very minimal.
I’m basing off my hiking and when playing soldiers pack weights.
What’s the standard list of equipment?
The BIG4 are where most of the weight is; rucksack/tent/sleeping system/storm clothing and it is partly dependent on your body size. My XXL weighs 30% more than a Medium across the board
Zac would be really interested in finding out what your packing to get your weight down to 15Kg? May be I am over packed at 19 kg https://lighterpack.com/r/25zr1j
Hatchet 860 grams ? poo tube 1 kg ?
Some of this is semantics, I weigh my pack not what I’m wearing, so ski pants I don’t include in pack weight, nor do I include my day thermals, t shirt. I do include my ski jacket and vest.
Also remember I’m splitting gear with my wife.
Your sleeping system looks hefty, 3kg? I try and balance the sleeping system, this trip I’m taking a similar one planet plus a thermarest. In summer I use a 500g down quilt, I also have a 350g bivi, coupled with the quilt Ive had that down to minus temps (window in hut had thick ice on inside) but I haven’t slept on snow in that system. All up with pad I’m at around 1.2ish.
Your dragon fly system is also heavy, given the weight of you food I’m guessing your cooking dehydrated food so your system there is pretty heavy.
1 pot for cooking --thats it no more. ditch the second set of poles and cutting board. 1 decent sleeping mat only.
I always take a foamy, downcast can fail, and when they do, its really bad. Foamy saves you, its super light, and doubles as a lounge. If wanting to go ultra light, cut it to hip-shoulder length. Ultra ultra, you can use your pack if the downbeat fails.
Haha, auto! Downmat!