Question What's in your ski bag for Japan/Euro/Canada etc 2018?

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  1. Annabuzzy

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    I ask this to inform my own decision for Niseko 2018 but (hopefully) it's also an interesting discussion in its own right.

    I'm personally torn about whether to travel with one or two pairs of skis. In the past I've only brought one pair and it's suited me fine. I do see more people nowadays bring two pairs.

    Definitely in my bag will be a pair of Salomon QLabs @103mm underfoot, which I'm confident will be great in virtually everything. What has me contemplating the second pair is the uber deep days and I'm contemplating also bringing K2 Cooma 114's. My thought is if I can fit them for weight issues then why not?

    What do others do? What are you packing?
     
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  2. Heinz

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    Have always only traveled with one pair of skis & poles in my single ski bag. Currently still my old Mantras which are the only skis I am using. See no reason to change. Yeah, I'm weird.
     
  3. Tonester

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    My Kastle MX98s will come with me to japow. And a pair of stock with powder baskets!
    In another thread I posted how my first "pow" ski was 78 underfoot. I demoed them in Japan about 15 years ago. They were considered "fat" powder skis back then and I thought they worked a treat. My go-to resort ski in Australia is still a 78 underfoot. The 98s are a concession to the wider-is-better trope.
     
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    I'm actually contemplating 2 pairs for the first time. Flying JAL so the weight isn't a problem. Usually just go with my SFBs but wouldn't mind also taking my Black Crows which are 10 mm narrower. I've got a feeling it will be a pain travelling around with 3 pairs of skis in 2 bags though.
     
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  5. Sandy

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    At Niseko, you have to ask yourself how many runs of powder you will get before it's all tracked out.... Then you can figure out if it's worth taking the K2 Coomba 114s.
     
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    Ski too skinny just go faster
     
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    I travel with 2 choices.

    Skis for skiing and my board for the pow days
     
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    I rock 2 pairs these days, 112mm Moment Deathwish and my 96mm Moment Tahoe.
    That covers pretty much anything that will be dished my way when travelling.

    If travelling OS with just one pair of skis, id change my quiver and rock something around 105mm "West coast Nt America" style one ski quiver.
     
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    That's the sweet spot!
     
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  10. Chillybin

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    103mm you'll be fine. It really depends what and how you ski. I use to take 2 pairs but now my one ski quiver of 122mm waist has done the entire West Coast of Canada and both Islands in Japan. I can assure you I have absolutely no style whatsoever on piste bumps and little to no style off But man I am happy
     
  11. Slowman

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    Being a bit of a gear tragic I generally travel with two pairs in a double Douche Bag. For my last Japan trip I had DPS Wailer 112 Tour 1's for the backcountry and Wailer 99's for resort days. This combination worked pretty well in mid-winter conditions.
     
  12. nfip

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    Will just be the Fischer Ranger 98's for 2 weeks in Japan.
    Tempted to invest in some a little wider but I'm happy to ski in it , not so much as on it. :)
     
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    "in it" or "on it"..... Ok, 80mm vs 110mm, but personally, something a little wider (e.g. 98mm vs 105mm or 108mm) doesn't make a huge difference.

    IMO, handling deep powder is more about the rocker and the tip taper.
     
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    I think at my modest level , I'm happy with them in the ummmm ....soft stuff at home so familiarity and my head in the right space will suffice.
    Have done Japow previously on ( underfoot ) 76 then 90 all mtn type so progression is consistent with the Ranger have attributes as you describe.

    If I was going to splurge I'm thinking 112 or 115 be reasonable with rocker etc..
    Gulmarg we used Bill's K2 Pontoons at 130mm :eek:
     
  15. BoofHead

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    My thoughts are if you have the weight allowance, take two pair so you aren't left wondering.
    For Niseko + ie Rusutsu, Kiro, etc., I only pack the one pair. 190 long,120 wide and have always had a smile on my dial.
    For my Feb Honshu trip I'll probably take 2 pair; Dynafit GT's (108) for general use/some touring and my 120 wide skis if things get epic. I do save some weight in that they have inserts and I use the one pair of bindings.
    Potential Jan Colorado trip, I'll most likely pack 2 pair but will decide once the season kicks off. Even then I will most likely have nothing wider than 108. I'm thinking my Mantras for general use/some touring and the Dynafits if it spews down.
    OTT? perhaps but 30 kg baggage allowance so why not.
     
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    Sounds good.
    I'm only in Japan every 3 or 4 years so can't really justify a set of big boppers.
    Probs prefer spend hard earned on a new pair of all mtn for back here at home.
    Can never have too many tho !
    Bit like surfboards....
     
  17. Hermannator

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    HEAT!
    Take 2 pairs and all the junk the airline ticket permits and then Takyubin (as long as you can wait the 2 days)!

    Personally I only take one pair of skis (with AT bindings and boots) and skins. Other useful stuff is binoculars (for spotting lines, hazards etc from a distance) and WD40 for freeing up the heel release on the AT bindings if they get stubborn while skinning. Used to take wax, iron and scraper but the former too damn heavy.

    If it weren't for the bulky baggage needs associated with skiing, I'd be going carry-on only. Saves so much time to and from airports...
     
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    Not bringing a ski bag.... I left my board/boots & jacket in Japan this year....
    I usually just leave the board there, but this year, we needed to free up kilo's for the amount of food stuff the wife brought home
     
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  19. rols

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    The Coomb(ack) 114 s ski so well in the soft stuff IMO, be hard not to choose them. I've only skied them with some low and soft Backland AT boots, which make them feel pretty wide on the firm stuff but seem to carve a turn well enough. With some bigger boots I'm guessing they would be much better on the hard pack.
     
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    I usually take a split board and a resort board. Reckon I ride the latter 2-3 days out of a month.

    So this year taking 2 split boards just in case anything breaks. Hideously expensive replacement costs in Japan.
     
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    Work skis (a pair of piste carvers) and a pair of 187 Praxis Protests and skins of course.
     
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    One pair with Kingpins and skins,plus borrow or hire when i get there if i get bored.
     
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    As someone new to skiing, but with 20 yrs of boarding I'm considering doing the same. I'm conflicted though as I want to fully transition to skiing over the 2 weeks in Japan.
     
  26. gareth_oau

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    I’m really enjoying the skiing and I’m finding it more versatile than the bosrding in getting around.

    I dont want to give up boarding but not sure if I will ever upgrade or replace my existing kit
     
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    You could upgrade both . You deserve it.
     
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    Yes I know I do LOL

    But its a pain carrying both half way across the world and when I’m boarding I’m compromising my opportunity to improve my skiing.

    Decisions decisions!
     
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    What's there to learn, you just sit down.
     
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    Take your board and rent skis OS. Change the rentals over during the week ( often if possible) to suit your progression or desire to try a different shape, length etc.
     
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    not a bad idea
     
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    First time taking our own skis to Japan in January. We will take the one double ski bag and then just one clothes case.
    Not looking forward to the shinkansen with a 190cm ski bag!
     
  33. Sandy

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    Two options:
    - Timing in Tokyo, so you can use Takkyubin
    - Take the bus instead of the Shinkansen. I think you're going to Hakuba, right? You can take a bus (expensive) from the airport. Or you can take a bus direct to Happo bus Terminal from Shinjuku (cheap). Of you can take the direct train (Super Azusa) from Shinjuku to Happo Station (once a day 7:30am)
     
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    Thx Sandy.
    Working out similiar logistcs , but getting further on to Iiyama.
    Same same as Hakuba.
    Was looking at Mono rail & train to Tokyo "central" then Shink to Iiyama.
    Arriving 5am on a Monday morning , so will check this out tonight.

    edit : I'll try copy this lot to Japow threads.
     
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    Thanks Sandy, yep Hakuba for this trip. We don't have enough time to Takkkyubin unfortunately. I hadn't considered the bus though, I'll do some research :)
     
  36. Sandy

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    https://naganosnowshuttle.com/Route_Haneda.aspx

    Bus leaves Haneda at 7:30am, about the same as Monorail, train, Shinkansen, bus.
     
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    Navis Freebird with Ions are the first can off the rank. Not sure what else might go.
     
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    bring antiperspirant deodorant!
    its the only thing i cant seem to find in japan. everything else you can buy or rent :)
     
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  40. Sandy

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    There's a reason....
     
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    My 2008 Mantras are still my go to ski. We were up at Whistler last weekend for Thanksgiving and they have the massive Turkey sale. I was sorely tempted to grab something outrageously fat for big powder days but then I though what a waste of money when I'll probably just end up back on my Mantras anyway. Bases are still in excellent nick and the Look SPX 12 bindings are still working great.
     
  42. DidSurfNowSki

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    But don't forget to have a 'Plan B' if it dumps snow through central Japan and they cancel the buses.
     
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    I have the 2010 model. Light, stiff, pre-rockered version. First choice for my maybe trip to Snowmass or any where in NA for that matter.
    For Japan, not so much. I personally prefer softer and wider for over there. However, mate of mine has the latest version and they will be his Japan skis. Lots of rocker.
     
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    Yes.
    Have work-shopped this issue.
    I'm back to plan A on the Shink.
     
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    Always have a plan B.
     
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    Honestly, for me, if you have a big rocker at the front tip, plus tip taper, you don't need the skis to be as wide. There are generally two problems for most people: tip float (getting the tip up and out of the powder), and tip hook.
    For example, I've still got a pair of the old gold Volkl Gotama(2008), which are 105mm under foot, no rocker, twintip, snub nosed(no tip tapper). They floated ok for their day, but you can get better tip float and lack of "hook" with a 95mm ski with big tip rocker and taper IMO. A 105mm ski will get you around 10% more "float" than a 95mm ski (about 10% greater surface area). However, a rockered ski might give you 50%+ more tip float because of the rocker.
     
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    Wise words. :thumbs:
    I have a saying ... if plan A doesn't work then there are 25 more letters in the alphabet.
     
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    I prefer the simplicity of walking out of the airport, putting my gear on a bus, and getting off at my destination at the other end. I'll cop a small time delay to avoid the transfer hassles with ski bags (and in my case a small child as well).
     
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    Yeah...nah...

    In 2014 the roads were closed for days... Only the Shinkansen trains could get you from the airport to the ski fields.
     
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    And other trains.