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What's the deal with this heat?

Discussion in 'Daily & Chat' started by sdsdc, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. Sandy

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    @Rush
    The difference is that those people are still relating their experience to a single point on the planet(and in SE Australia) with a run of hot temperatures..... YOU are trying to turn this into an AGW shit-fight, and it won't be allowed.
     
  2. Donza

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    cloudy and not hot in the gong today.
    has the run finished ?
     
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  3. DaveM

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    I am looking at Easter for a possibility of a large field of cool air finally extending past Tassie and lower Vic. Hopefully long term GFS has picked it well this far out. Of course it may all disappear.

    In my experience of the Bathurst area, this is a most unusual run of well above average temps in my time here. As mentioned though earlier, probably not unique in time. But it's certainly been a tad warm.

    We average 2.7 days equal to or above 30 in March, so far only one day has missed it and that day was 29.8 :) We are averaging a bit over 32 so far, long term average is just under 25. Bit of a gap.

    Nights also about 4 above average. Looking forward to an easing from 30's mid next week (though not cool) then hopefully another step down around Easter. :D
     
  4. Claude Cat

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    GFS is suggesting more traditional frontal systems from the 21st March and again a few days later.
    Take that with very large grain of salt as models are traditionally not that great in the transitional seasons.
     
  5. DaveM

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    Indeed CC but it's nice to see that sort of thing in the models, despite it being out a looong way and definitely a fair chance of being something completely different , it's good to think it possible, :)

    Equinox is close now and that always helps things in the Tablelands areas, night cooling overcomes day warming. :D
     
  6. Born2ski

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    Strange how on a ski forum discussion on global warming is treated as a taboo subject. Doesn't matter which sub-forum the issue comes up in the discussion is often shut down, seen as too contentious.
     
  7. rocketboy

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    Stinkin hot at oak flats waiting for the airbags to get swapped out at Toyota. Was nice and cool at Gerroa this morning though.
     
  8. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    0.2 to go, and Canberra has a new record.
     
  9. rocketboy

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    These discussions can be about weather processes without becoming AGW bun fights. There's plenty of basic weather processes that people can learn about and do want to understand better. So maybe stick to the weather science and it will naturally build better understanding of broader climate science issues without the dogma taking over.
     
  10. benchives

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    Same atory from locals up here in the tweed.
     
  11. Chowder11

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    Nothing brings out people's agro and aggressive stubborn opinion quite like a climate change discussion.
     
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  12. Sandy

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    This^^

    It's not so much the FACT that it's contentious, it's that it BECOMES a shit fight every time.
    We tried that last year and that's what happened(Falls Expat posted it up, and eventually it turned to crap... Gerg spat the dummy and left, which was a pity). People want to push their own agenda, then you get abuse, name calling, and that's where it ends.
     
  13. Sandy

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    ^^ This
     
  14. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    So how bout them al ninios hey?
     
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  15. Claude Cat

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    Discuss global warming to your heart's content in CV. It always end in a shitfight; Sandy & I are sick of cleaning it up.
     
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  16. benchives

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    The chicken shop?
     
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  17. Sandy

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    Stay on topic :p
     
  18. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Bagerk!

    We broke the record, only just, temp going back down now.
     
  19. Sandy

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    So what was that record in Canberra?
     
  20. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Longest March heatwave on record, previously 9 days. Has been over 30 every day this month so far, but also the last week in Feb.
     
  21. Donza

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    Pasta shop in New Jersey?
     
  22. Claude Cat

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    Stay on topic.
     
  23. rocketboy

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    lots of hot air ... i think
     
  24. Kelpieboy

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    It might be a novel idea to find out what constitutes a heatwave in different locations. A succession of 30+c days at my location wouldn't raise an eyebrow , tbh a run of 30+c days would be quite welcome. Days that are 30 - 35c are relatively normal for this location and time of the year. A heatwave doesn't even get discussed until its over 40c ( and for the current run I don't know how many it was , somewhere around 20 I would guess ) . Today we only got to 37c so the current heatwave has ended for us. Hopefully it wont return again this year and a downward trend has now begun.
     
  25. snowduck

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    10 days 'til the vernal equinox.

    That's when it gets really truly cool
     
  26. gareth_oau

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    Marble Bar set a world record in 1924 for 160 consecutive days above 37.8C (100F)
     
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    bloody humid in Sydney this evening
    just walked the dog and drenched in sweat
    I hate being sweaty, its no good for my complexion
     
  28. Legs Akimbo

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    BoM says:

    "Three days or more of high maximum and minimum temperatures that is unusual for that location."
    Or you can get really excited with the Centre for Australian Weather and Climate Research. The answer seems to be along the lines of "It ain't 'arf 'ot, Mum".
     
  29. Kelpieboy

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    That's fine as a definition for a heatwave , thanks Legs Akimbo. My question was more about what temperature in different locations would be considered -Three days or more of high maximum and minimum temperatures that is unusual for that location." I just thought it might be interesting to find out . At least it stops this infernal bickering over global goddamningly boring warming , it exists people and my only real question about it is exactly how much can be put down to us. I better stop now before a nasty note from a mod appears :)
     
  30. coolair

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    So that means the world is cooling now, global warming people changed to climate change to cover their butts, you can play statistics any way you want.
     
  31. Born2ski

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    And this is how the shit fight and abuse begins.

    Some people want to deliberately derail legitimate discussion. Do we ban the discussion or ban the name callers ? Guess that's the choice.

    Back on topic, it's a sticky night here in Brisbane.
     
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  33. Angus_McCrory

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    You have a point.
     
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  34. Claude Cat

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    stay on topic.
     
  35. cookieman

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    I predict that by third week of March we will have maximum temps below 20c for Melbourne, and people will complain where has summer gone?
     
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    and how much they are already hating winter
     
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    Anyone that complains about winter in this forum ought to be banned. Period.








    Still muggy in Melb........
     
  38. Edgecrusher

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    Sun now out after a cloudy morning. Temps climbing. 75% humidity.
    Can't say wearing a suit is comfortable right now.
     
  39. Kelpieboy

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    Coolest day in 3 months here , only got to a top of 34, we even had a little ( and I do mean a little ) rain today. Is this the turning point where summer becomes autumn ? Only time will tell I guess. If it is then the countdown to first snow starts now :)
     
  40. Kelpieboy

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    Some patchy rain in the lower half of NSW , from around Hillston -West Wyalong all the way south to the Vic border. A decent size storm heading north east going between Mudgee and Newcastle. Central and mid north coast might get a decent drop out of it.
     
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    Where at Kelpieboy?
     
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    What climate change, just more observation needed.
     
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    For the record not a single statement of mine attempted any attribution to the observed changes in the planet's atmospheric circulation.
     
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    Melbourne today....too cold too wet.
    haha
     
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    I always wondered why i stopped seeing him post. Now i know.