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When will CP access road open up this year?

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Mils, Aug 26, 2018.

  1. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    And get onto NSW DPI - Recreational Fisheries to talk to RMS to have the road open for fisher people.

    It would also help if NSW DPI - Recreational Fisheries schedule their Gone Fishing Day earlier than normal to be 5 October rather than the 2nd Sunday in October.
     
  2. climberman

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    The key is not the road clearing crew.

    I’m not sure anglers are the approach. Spencer’s is pretty high for early season.
     
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  3. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    RMS should leave the road to clear naturally, and charge a fee to transport people up and back! That could then pay to clear the road! Or buy beers!
     
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  4. SAsurfa

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    Thanks!
     
  5. Ubiquitous Steve

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    Ok..Team Bears can hear the sooking......perhaps we will speak to our contacts in the Mitta. Valley and fit out the D4 with rubber tracks....and truck it up to KNP to quell the unrest from the unruly mobs gathered in Perisher ...we can no longer stand the whining from those backcountry warriors!

    Now...has anybody seen the D4?Please report in so we can save the day?

    But we need it back shortly.as much fire protection will be necessary in comming weeks!
     
  6. skifree

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    Probably true.

    But I keep finding fisher people at Spencer’s earlier than bc folk.

    The trout were up in Perisher Creek about 11 September this year despite the creek being completely snow covered on the West side of the West bridge.
     
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  7. SMSkier

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    Here are a few pics taken end of last season...... nowhere near as much on the ground at 1830 ASL (about) this season....but there is a similar amount up on the range and peaks. My judgement when comparing the past 2 seasons is that the prevailing winds this Winter differed in strength and direction from last year. Same here at Moonbah.

    Please open road asap as by the time it opened last year there was significant melt. (Noting that it was opened to the Spencers gate initially so it was just a case of tour up over Guthries and to wherever....and we did).

    Pics at base of Eyre.....




     
  8. climberman

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    Ok
    Good to know and consider.
     
  9. Paperboy

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    Anyone know if the road will be opening this weekend? Have the road clearing crews been working on it during the week?
     
  10. chicski

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    So, realistically, I nailed it on the second post in the thread
     
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  13. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    It’s not just the clearing, they often have some road repairs to do as well.
     
  14. robbo mcs

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    I had a look from the top of Mt P today. The road looks clear to spencers creek, but couldn’t see beyond there. Barriers still closed to cars at perisher. I might ride my bike up the road from perisher tomorrow, see how far I can get
     
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  15. Paperboy

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    I guess so. Just seems to be getting later and later each year. Gone are the days it was open on the Long weekend.
     
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  16. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Snowfalls are getting later and later too. I remember closing weekends that weren’t skiable, or just half FV. And the LWE was very early this year.
     
  17. robbo mcs

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    Charlottes new lease gives them the rights to the road until the long weekend, which is new this year, 2 weeks later than the old lease.

    So I would assume all other things being equal, you could expect the road to open 2 weeks later than it has in the past.
     
  18. edward roberts

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    Went up there today on bike gate is closed but not locked at Perisher - road is fully drive-able for 2wd ,narrows to one lane in a few spots. I know that if your staying at CP you could drive up and leave car at Spencers. Photo shows cover beyond Spencers gate.
     

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  19. climberman

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    Their old lease gave them the lift track across it. Not so much ‘rights to the road’.
    Is the new lease area different?
     
  20. robbo mcs

    robbo mcs One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    No, I think the area is the same. However, road clearing from charlottes entrance road to the turning circle can only commence once the mountain has closed for the season, so clearing to the turning circle will be two weeks later.
     
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  21. climberman

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    Yeah that sits with my understanding
     
  22. chicski

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    Road still closed at Perisher but clear to Spencer’s creek. As the above poster mentioned, plenty of places only a single lane. Spencer’s onwards has heaps of snow. Doesn’t look like anything has even been started as far as clearing goes. Heavy machinery still parked at the back of the carpark. Maybe they will make a start on a Monday? Photo below is at Eyre, bit of a snow wall still and snow covering half the road.

     
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  23. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Though looking back at pics, I rode to Spencer’s creek one year ago tomorrow. The snow was deeper last year. The road was open to Charlotte Pass one week later, 15/10/17. So if they get going this week....
     
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  24. Paperboy

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    If, that's the question. Next weekend would be nice. Thanks for the update chicski
     
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  25. robbo mcs

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    I rode my bike up the road to Spencers Creek today as well. In previous years there has sometimes been damage to the road visible that will need fixing before they can open the road. Presumably this damage this is caused by a combination of oversnow transport and the weather. However this year the road looks pretty good condition, so shouldn’t need any work
     
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  26. Snow Blowey

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    Its not the time required to clear that is the issue. Remember last years RMS boys in big toys video.

    Pretty sure they'd get it open in a days work if they got the gear up there.

    No reason it couldn't happen a day or two after the long weekend. Always used to.

    @Boutros - i heard a rumor that the real reason this is not happening until snow thins is because there is a concern with leaving vertical snow banks on the uphill side opened up liability. Encourage the road jump etc. Any truth in this?
     
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  27. Boutros

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    It's a factor from the discussions I'm aware of @Snow Blowey. They're reluctant to leave snow cliffs so adds to the clearing cost when they need to get an excavator up there to shave the edges back. I think it comes from a few times they've spotted parents letting their skids toboggan toward the road oblivious of the 2-3 metre drop onto pavement. Unfortunate side effect of today's fear of potential litigation.

    Clearing happening this week. All RMS staff and contractors on a week's break last week but scheduled to start today or tomorrow. Hopefully the rest of the way to Charlotte's is assessed as not needing much work and they knock it off as well as the little bit to Spencers.
     
  28. Famos

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    What is wrong with these people? I sometimes hold out little hope for the human race ! All we can hope for is that natural selection takes it's course.
     
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  29. chicski

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    Looks to be a dusting up high on the cams. Anyone got any on the spot updates yet?
     
  30. skifree

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    Might have to go for a tootle and look see after long breaky.

    26 mm rain at P overnight will have helped clear the road but not helped the snow pack we’d like to access from the road.

    Only 10mm rain at T Top Station overnight bodes well.

    Edit; mls corrected to mm.
     
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  31. Snow Blowey

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    mm not mL. Sorry - pet hate
     
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  32. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    My bad, BOM use mm so I’ve learnt something today.
     
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    Dustings..
    [​IMG]
     
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  34. skifree

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    At the Perisher Gap gate.



    Grader clearance of snow off the road at Perisher Gap.



    Eyre Tbar & Cafe, @Normo was not there today.
     
  35. SAsurfa

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    Thanks for the update.

    So how far have they got up the road @skifree
     
  36. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well i was a bit damp and cool by the time i walked up to the Gap from the gate back at Perisher in front of i think The White Spider lodge. And the breeze was blowing a little more up at that level. So I turned round there. I should have taken up a hard shell, softshell didn’t quite cut it today.

    If they started Monday they should be tidy to Spencer’s. But I’m thinking RMS & Police will not bother to inspect & clear the road for use until after this weather blows thru.

    So at a guess open by Friday arvo.
     
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    That would be nice, as I drive down tomorrow night!
     
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    My tea leaf mabo is not telling me this week.
     
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    Hmmmm do I drive up from Vic on Friday on the hope it's open on Sat? Or wait another week, and let more of the cover melt away......
     
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    The local cycling club are expecting to ride to the turning circle on Sunday.
     
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    Pics or it didn't happen ;)
     
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  42. chicski

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    I’m not riding with them.
     
  43. skifree

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    If it’s not open use the Kozi chair or go out of Guthega.
     
  44. telecrag

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    Looking at the forecast, Im waiting on next week anyway, big call, but I am predicting that Sunday will be perfect, no one ski my line please.
     
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    Finally the warriors can relax,draw breathe....bitumen Access has been completed...The freeway is back to the Sidecountry!

    Not much work required now to bag a few lines....quick burn up to CP. T Circle ⭕️ and fasten Skis....
    Perhaps a bridge required so there is no need to risk the treacherous river crossing below!
     
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    I'd settle for a ski carpet from the river back up to the circle, that last 400 can be life sucking.
     
  47. telecrag

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    Heartbreak Hill

    Always leave a beer in an esky, in the car.
     
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    Just spoke with someone at the Perisher National park office and they said the RMS had told them hoping to have the road open to Spencers by this weekend but not Charlotte.
     
  49. telecrag

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    They always wait for me.
     
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    Well get a wriggle on !