My best friend has booked a trip to Shiga Kogen this December with her teenage son. For her sake, I will nominate 17 December 2022. Personally, I’m hoping that I can get in by late December 2023!
When will Japan open for Tourists post Covid 19
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Didn't Japan have a huge season with high visitation due to the captive local market? Much like Australian tourism during our border closure.
It doesn't matter who is sitting on the chairlifts and sleeping in the beds as long as they're a tourist from somewhere.
Distract from my problems might be a better descriptionI'm not entirely convinced this thread is going to cheer you up.
I'm an optimist, I say they'll open 1 Oct 22.
I respectfully disagree that NA needs more than 2 weeks. While not ideal, you can still fit a fair bit in 2 weeks. Yes, flight time is an extra 5 hrs beyond flying to CTS (less to Tokyo) but once you are there its comparable.
"From a business standpoint, we want foreign tourists to come," the 79-year-old Fujii said. "But from an emotional standpoint, we want customers from Japan."
Kyoto's love-hate relationship with tourists endures as yen weakens
Attitudes in the city reflect a broader uncertainty in Japan about welcoming tourist hordes amid fears they could trigger a resurgence in COVID-19 cases.www.japantimes.co.jp
Its not just the 5 hours of travel time its the additional timezone acclimatisation.
And altitude depending on where you're going.
I've always managed to get a ski in either the day I arrive or next day.
Always bit more challenging with kids
Pre kids I always managed to ski the day after arrival in Europe with few worries.
Europe is easier, I find, as the time difference is only 5-7 hours. the 12 hour opposite timezone of the US just wrecks me. (with the caveat that I've figured out how to do it if in the pointy end of the plane, but thats only work trips)
Yep, hopefully they sleep ok on the planes! Not looking fwd to the 5hr LAX stopover either, but least we've got a direct flight from LAX to Aspen...
Will 5 hrs be enough?
I've been watching some horror stories (on youtube) at LAX recently with domestic connections.
Hope its improved by winter.
Yep, Delta actually gave us a two flight options, one with 2hrs, one with 5. Hard to imagine 2 would suffice. Flight lands at 6am so hopefully not too bad but I know LAX is a shocker.
@elSpike I'd forgotten about the US jetlag thing. That will be a joy with young kids! first world problems. Our time diff b/w Europe is 11-12 in winter, much less from Singers.
Pre-covid Friends of mine were given a 140 min window to clear customs get bags etc. Then transfer over to a Eagle air flight to SFO.
Their travel agent told them it would be fine, they'd be able to grab a coffee .
They missed the connection by yonks.
Ended up staying the day at LAX as the Eagle flights were all full. Finally got to SFO and then drove to Tahoe.
arrived after midnight.
If you guess this year, you get to enjoy your optimism. If you guess next year, you get to enjoy wallowing in your misery. If you don't guess at all, you get to enjoy being a sourpuss!
Not in Niseko.
Ok maybe the hotels and ryokans got customers, but my little 3 bed upper village apartment had 0 nights rental. 0. Every since we left in March 2020. But the bills keep rolling in. You still need snow clearing, power so the pipes don’t freeze up, and of course “management fees” and Japanese Tax/rates etc.
It’s been an exxy ride.
Luckily we can ride it out.
Many others cant
Don't laugh. April 1st is the start of the new financial and school years in Japan. An awful lot of announcements are made, or things start, on that day.
Heaps more. There’s no rule that says kids, especially littlies, have to enjoy their long, tiring day in buses, trains, planes and airport queues. On the law of averages, the exact opposite is most likely.if this Japan winter is closed to independent visas , what are the group Ski Tours that are on ?
this one is 6 days, 3500CAD but good for b.c as well as on-field.
pity its not in Yen which is still at a good rate...
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Interested to look at tours if you can post, cheers
Who says they are on? I love how on their website they don't mention that Japan has not announced any sort of opening yet, but they are still willing to take your money.
Are they associated with a Japanese Travel agent? I have not looked at it in detail. But my understanding is that the current tours can only be operated by Japanese travel agents.if this Japan winter is closed to independent visas , what are the group Ski Tours that are on ?
this one is 6 days, 3500CAD but good for b.c as well as on-field.
pity its not in Yen which is still at a good rate...
Japan Powder Safaris, Jan 2023 » Summit Mountain Guides
Japan is known for its deep low-density powder and perfectly spaced birch forests. The amazing hot-spring network & incredible food also contribute to the uniqueness of this cultural ski experience. Join us and explore this mythical ski paradise as we return to Hokkaido in January 2023.summitmountainguides.com
Interested to look at tours if you can post, cheers
Who knows…I hope you had someone come through to air out ect during the green season too. Mouldy summers...
That’s the difficult part of not being able to visit and eyeball your property. There is a lot of trust in the management.
Yes, Japan had a huge season snow wise. Huge snow doesn't necessarily attract huge Japanese crowds, because there's "too much" fresh snow. High visitation rates? Not especially. And like usual, hardly anybody around during mid week.
Captive local market? What captive market? Of the 5 flights I took out of and into Japan (US), maybe 80% were Japanese. i.e. Japanese were traveling as tourists to the US, since they were allowed to reenter Japan.
"Much like Australian tourism during our border closure." The border closures in Australia were both ways, in Japan there was no border closure either way for Japanese from October 2020
Uh ha, thanks for clearing that up for me. I erroneously thought Japanese residents couldn't leave and were thus holidaying inbound.This thread is supposed to be a bit of light hearted fun so taking it for what it is. For those of us missing out on our Japan ski season fix, it is nothing compared to those whose income stream has dried up and remains dry while Japan fartar$e around with their open dates. Feel for all of you accom owners and others impacted.
Fingers crossed it gets sorted soon. On the plus side, judging by what has happened in oz, it will return with a massive vengeance and you'll recoup some losses with increaed prices etc. Accom near/in the nsw resorts has doubled in price this season with all the pent up demand, and i doubt it will reduce materially next year.
Read into it what you will, but SQ is ramping up.
SIA to increase flights to Japan, India; passenger capacity to reach 81% of pre-pandemic levels by end-2022
SINGAPORE: Singapore Airlines (SIA) will operate more flights to Japan and India in the coming months amid strong demand for air travel. It will also add more flights to Los Angeles and Paris by December 2022 and continue with its direct services to Vancouver. Together with adjustments to thwww.channelnewsasia.com
Japan cautious on starting tourism campaign as fears of virus wave grow
Prime Minister Fumio Kishida has backed off a plan to begin the campaign early this month, amid fears that it could accelerate the spread of the virus.
They would not start the domestic tourism campaign before the election in late July anyway!!
Japan cautious on starting tourism campaign as fears of virus wave grow
Prime Minister Fumio Kishida has backed off a plan to begin the campaign early this month, amid fears that it could accelerate the spread of the virus.
I have updated the Op with peoples dates If I have missed you and you have chosen a date not already taken reply to this post.
For those who seem to not understand this sort of "book", you need to pick a date that has not been already taken by someone else.
I am still thinking about that. Big ask to expect that sort of prize for something that is free to enter. Accom before Christmas or in March at either lodge, happy to offer a discount or some time on snow with my mogul skier.
I was thinking about 5000 yen voucher at The Avenue, the restaurant at Chalet Madarao. Or a days ski rental. But many would not be able to claim those.
Getting to ski with me at Perisher in Augest or September is another option.
But we may not know the outcome by then.
Maybe a Chalet Myoko t-shirt.
Happy to have other business owners contributeI am still thinking about that. Big ask to expect that sort of prize for something that is free to enter. Accom before Christmas or in March at either lodge, happy to offer a discount or some time on snow with my mogul skier.
I was thinking about 5000 yen voucher at The Avenue, the restaurant at Chalet Madarao. Or a days ski rental. But many would not be able to claim those.
Getting to ski with me at Perisher in Augest or September is another option. But we may not know the outcome by then.
Maybe a Chalet Myoko t-shirt.
Happy to have other business owners contribute
Haha, im just kidding I would like to think you'll be at capacity when the country opens! you should be selling chalet Myoko shirts. Thats a pretty cool brand.
