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Where to start with XC skis?

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by CarveMan, Jul 4, 2018.

  1. BilbyBill

    BilbyBill One of Us

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    Back to the original post. @CarveMan is looking for a suitable ski to use on groomed trails.
    I have had more than 45 years of xc experience ranging from racing to backcountry overnight ski tours and have been a level 3 nordic instructor and trainer. I am still a very active xc skier, mainly skiing on groomed trails with both classic and skate technique with the occassional diversion off the groomed when conditions are suitable.
    I would advise @CarveMan to start with a light touring ski without metal edges. He says he was looking at a Fischer catalogue and a terrific ski for him would be the Fischer Superlite Crown. Other options would be one of the Madshus skis, say the Madshus Birkebiener Classic Zero, or the Madshus Ultrasonic Classic IntelliGrip. The IntelliGrip has a mohair skin in the kick zone to provide the grip. Many of the ski manufacturers are returning to the mohair skin as their grip solution. Whether this is just marketing spin only time will tell.
    Anyway that is my 2 bobs worth. Good luck @CarveMan with your selection and hope you have many happy kilometers of gliding on your chosen ski.
     
  2. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    Mohair was horrible in Australia the first time round. Seriously ugly balling up. I suspected something to do with snow temperature, but I really have no idea. Perhaps it will be better this time.
     
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  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think skating is a great experience and I loved it. But it's not for casual skiers; without a commitment to fitness and technique development it's no joy.
     
  4. sbm_

    sbm_ One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I'd hardly say CarveMan is a casual skier though!
     
  5. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sorry, I meant casual about skating.
    It's not IMO something that you can dabble in.

    There's also hybrid skis. There are mixed views about those.
    And you can skate on heavy metal too; it's not always hopeless or punishing and there are some snow conditions where it's a good way to stay safe.
     
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  6. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks, but I think I'm going to be a pretty casual XC skier. Just looking for another way to enjoy the mountains that helps with fitness and is low impact on the joints.
     
  7. legend

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    I have been XC skiing in Aus for over 40 years. We all started on waxed skis (patterned skis weren't around) and we had a choice of racing, light touring and touring skis.
    Most chose the heavier touring ski (had a good side-cut which made turning easier) and you could travel long distances easily over a wide variations of terrain, including big downhill (Watsons Crags, Bogong, etc) and the odd cornice jump or two (I loved the cornice jumps of Kosci).
    When recommending skis for the novice skier, I ask them where will they spend the majority of time skiing.
    If on groomed tracks, then patterned skis with sidecut (makes for much easier turning) would be recommended. Metal edges are not required (only really needed when on ice and hard surfaces). Classical (diagonal stride) is much easier to learn, just progress up from walking, but a more emphasized motion to get the skis sliding). You have a choice of 3-pin binding, or nnb. Lots of choices out there, both have pros and cons.
     
  8. luvthabumps

    luvthabumps A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I did a season rental of XC gear from Doug at EMC years ago and then just bought it off him at the end of the season I enjoyed it so much. Similarly, it was just for fitness around the Buller XC trails and used to do it with jnr LTB. So, get your gear together @CarveMan and I'll see you in a month on the trails. BTW - you should definitely get the sled for jnr Carve. You know it will get passed down............
     
  9. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah I'm tempted to go visit Doug next week and get the low down.
     
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  10. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    Fair enough.
     
  11. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think you've just summed up 2/3 of the content on these forums! :out:
     
  12. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    Has anyone taught you a kick turn?
     
  13. art

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    Havnt seen @Kieran on here for ages.
    Anyway a sled or pulk of some sort is great with a little kid. They can snooze while you ski then stop for some snow play or a picnic. As they get older they can ski with you and jump in when they get tired of it or if the weather turns.
     
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  14. luvthabumps

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    Up at Whistler you can even rent these sleds out at the Olympic XC Centre down Callaghan Valley road. Great set up for families out there.
     
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    teckel Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    You can even rent these sleds at a great little ski hire in Narbethong, Vic!! Great set up for families up there ;)
     
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  16. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    I am going for a private XC ski lesson this weekend, tomorrow in fact at Mt. Stirling. I want to learn to improve my stopping and turning as well as gliding more efficiently on the flats. Parallel turning is another thing I want to learn, Plus That which could also be called the " ice hockey stop " by some skiers.
     
  17. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Start behind the lodge
     
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  18. mick chopps

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    One step away from telemarking...
     
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  19. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah nah.
     
  20. mick chopps

    mick chopps Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    all evidence to the contrary
     
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  21. Telemark Phat

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    You know you'll need the challenge while your sprog is learning.
     
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  22. CarveMan

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    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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  24. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’m sure I would provide much amusement!
     
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    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    It's a fun day out for all levels. In the 7km event there is even a class for pulks where the registered entrant is the kid
     
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  26. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Pretty sure I saw pics of Mrs @Mufts doing exactly that!
     
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  27. Mufts

    Mufts Potato Ski Pass: Gold

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    That you did. Pouch class. Both skier and bub get their own bib and time!
     
  28. Whatever really

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    Embarrassing if the kid comes first
     
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  29. BilbyBill

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  30. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just had the maiden voyage out to the Buller Quarry and back. Really enjoyed it!

    No idea if the skis are any good or not as I have nothing to compare to but they seemed to do what they should have!

    Very happy to have picked them up, it's exactly what I was hoping it would be, the kind of exercise I like.
     
  31. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    That is XC ski kit porn. Very nice. Happy Nordic skiing comrade! :)
     
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