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Where to stay on the mountain?

Discussion in 'Falls Creek' started by ammer, Jun 23, 2011.

  1. ammer

    ammer First Runs

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    So I have ordered our clothes from the US ...I better get some where booked to use them, I'm thinking Falls Creek. I will be driving from Melbourne, without my husband, bringing 4 wild young boys:). I want somewhere clean, safe, kid friendly, and preferably with meals included. I'm thinking of between 4-7 days. Any suggestions?

    Also, since I am man free(well at least big useful man;)) for the trip how the hell am I going to drive up a snow covered mountain? And snow chains? wtf? That might break my nails;).
     
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    if you really don't want to fit chains, you can get a bus from mt beauty, car parking available from the bus company.

    most days you don't actually need to fit chains, but you must carry them. make sure you get diamond-pattern chains, not ladders. they are much easier to use, and safer. putting them on/off is not difficult, but can be a bit cold/messy. take something to lie on and maybe an old jacket. torch if you expect to be going up/down in the dark.

    kid friendly places with meals included include diana, pretty valley, nelse, fc hotel, cooroona. some of these have swimming pools which can be very good if weather is bad or kids want an alternative active activity. pretty valley is an ideal location for getting beginners and kids to ski school.
     
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    Thanks Currawong. I looked at the bus Option but it would be $$ $x 41(kids) + 58 = 222 + parking and the departure times form mt beauty seem limited. Then if I drive I have the cost and trouble of snow chains plus, how much is parking at Falls Creek and how much for chain rental?

    I'm getting prices for those places you mentioned. It looks like this is going to be a very $$ trip!!!
     
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    before kids we stayed at pretty valley for many years and also stayed at cooroona once.But now pretty valley although it is fantastic is a bit pricey for us and since I love staying in that part of the village we now stay at Les Chalet appartments. There are lots of different appartment/price options and it is very convenient,. You have to do your own meals but i think that's good -you eat when you want and as kids want to eat all the time it works out well.
     
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    Resort Entry (parking) is either $36 or $38 per day you are up there. Chain rental is about $65 for 7 days (Rocky Valley in Mt Beauty)

    Parking at Mount Beauty for the coach service is $5 / day if I recall correctly.

    If you are staying 7 days it would be cheaper and much much easier to just grab the bus.
     
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  6. ammer

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    Hi wannaski, with something like Les Chalet, are they all privately owned so it's hit and miss what kind of quality they are? Also, for doing your own meals ..are there fully stocked supermarkets up there and what are the food places like for lunch/dinner with kids?
     
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    Infact I think you might be right!
     
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    Hi wannaski, with something like Les Chalet, are they all privately owned so it's hit and miss what kind of quality they are? Also, for doing your own meals ..are there fully stocked supermarkets up there and what are the food places like for lunch/dinner with kids? [/quote]

    There is actually 3 different places that you can book the appartments through as they all have different appartments available -most have pics available and are more than happy to give an honest discription of the appartments I will PM you the three websites to look at. There is a supermarket in the new Quey West complex and there is also places to get hot food or pizza etc that are in walking distance.
     
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    I have sent those websites to your mail box to check out, hope that's helpfull
     
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    Heaps of places to eat, it's a big place.

    Expensive IGA supermarket at the base of Falls Express lift (day carpark, about 2minutes walk up the road from the Oversnow terminal). If you can bring food with you from home, do it.

    The Man probably is the cheapest option for eating out. Pizza / Pasta place.
     
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    Resort Entry is actually $35 per day, not $36 or $38 per day...check here for prices http://bit.ly/mQ7ekZ

    Infact...you might have to change your forum name to 'Inaccurate' [​IMG]
     
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    make sure you take junk food/ snacks with you that seems to be the most expensive thing to buy on the mountain.I remember seeing a pack of biscuits that would norm retail for $2.75 with a price tag of $7.50 Things like alcohol and fresh foods like veg etc doesn't seem that bad to me -considering the convenience-although I havn't been to the new supermarket yet always went to the hub, but we tend to take almost everything with us. I even go so far as to make lasagne, curry , stews etc , freeze them and take them in a little esky, that way great food just has to be finished off/heated( probably just the chef coming out in me), yiros packs are a great idea too! And I always have to take a big slab of chocolate brownie, travells well and it's great with a hot choc or coffee.
     
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    Best place for lunch on the mountain has to be Gateway. Had Helen's Thai Pumpkin soup on opening weekend. Superb. $12 - $16 will get you a great lunch,
     
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    Oh noes, $1 difference. Apologies Mr Perfect.
     
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    There is actually 3 different places that you can book the appartments through as they all have different appartments available -most have pics available and are more than happy to give an honest discription of the appartments I will PM you the three websites to look at. There is a supermarket in the new Quey West complex and there is also places to get hot food or pizza etc that are in walking distance.[/quote]

    Thanks so much wannaski, I'll have a look at those now. I got a few quotes form some of the lodges/hotels and HOLY COW!! I think we might be staying in an apartment!
     
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    Now I'm hungry!!! I really don't fancy cooking too much and without my hubby I will be doing all the kids stuff ...so I think bringing a few prepared things and them microwaving might be a great idea and save heaps of $$$
     
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    LOL!
     
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    Sounds yum!
     
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    Not making any claim to that title...and it's probably taken as a forum name already.

    People on this forum like to espouse it as being a great source of information to the general public so it is important for that information to be accurate. More and more it is creeping in that people are making statements of fact that have inaccuracies, thus compromising the value of forum information.
     
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    oh yeah, pancakes are great too. And you can even get one of those shake pancake mixes where you just add the liquid ,shake and cook, saves taking the flour as that's a bit messy and they are very cheap- take a bottle of camp maple syrup -perfect!!
     
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    Regarding the drive versus bus thing, if it is your one aussie ski holiday for the year and your not confident fitting chains seriously consider the bus thing. Most trips up and down you will not need to fit chains and all will be good. However, if you need to fit chains invariably it is because the weather is bad and fitting them will not be like in your drive at home or outside the ski hire. By yourself, with kids in tow and a fair amount of money invested in your ski holiday, you do not want it starting off on a bad footing because your arrival has coincided with a storm cycle and the icy roads and fitting chains have been a disaster. Even if it costs a little more it may be worth doing the bus.
     
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    My husband has less idea of how to fit chains than I do and I'm the one who drives up and down the mountain, Kiewa valley hire is a great place to get chains and they give you part of your hire fee back if you don't need to use the chains plus they give you a demo of how they work. Anyway people who go to Falls are fantastic if someone see's you struggling they will give you a hand I'm sure [​IMG]
     
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    Agree, nothing to do with gender...from the earlier posts it would seem that this is a first ski trip for Ammer and she was pretty nervous about the chains thing. Should also have asked what car she is driving up as heaps of Mums now have AWD cars and for Falls that just about eliminates the need to worry about fitting chains (though you still need to carry them).
     
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    You are seriously making me hungry!! Pancakes sound perfect! I'm making a food list!
     
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    If I am correct they are AWD or 4WD which just about eliminates the need to worry about fitting chains at Falls, though to reiterate you will still need to hire/buy and carry them. We drive up the hill 5-7 days per week in a 4WD or AWD for the past 5 years (and very frequently for years before that) in Winter and cannot remember having to fit them since Vicroads changed rules years and years ago to allow a differentiation between 4WD and 2WD in regards to chains.

    Given the car your driving, hire your chains, stick them in the boot and relax and enjoy your ski trip.
     
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    Must add, make sure that you have tyres in reasonable condition and still drive very carefully. You don't need to fit chains to 4WD/AWD but they are not foolproof. Have your car in good condition, respect the road conditions and you will be fine.
     
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    Thanks Hully, that's takes a weight off!
     
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    Just got all new tyres a few months ago so I'll just get them checked but should be good to go! Do I need to do something special cause it's a diesel?
     
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    I have had 4wd/AWDs for maybe 9 or 10 years, and would spend around 20 - 25 days up at Falls. Never had to fit chains. Now, on the other hand, Hotham...

    NB: As Hully says - be careful. If there is ice, then go for the side of caution and fit chains.
     
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    Hi Anmer, I usually park at the bus station and get the bus up for a few reasons-:

    1. The bus is better for people with motion sickness.
    2. No requirement to hire/buy, carry or fit chains.
    3, No need to park the car or dig it out at the end of the week, bus drops you at Oversnow.
    4. No requirement to pay $35per day resort entry fee.

    If you want to stay in an apartment have a look at http://www.fallscreek.com.au or http://www.mountainmultiservice.com.au

    Like wannaski I take up an esky full of food, both premade and raw. Usually a curry, a huge thing of bolognese sauce, a casserole, home made hamburgers, all frozen. Some crovacced steak, ingredients for home made pizza on pitta bread.

    Often the kids will go back to the apartment for lunch and we make hamburgers on English muffins, pizzas, toasties, and a favourite is potatoes microwaved topped with bolognese sauce, cheese and grilled, sometimes chilli con carne in lieu of bolognese. It's healthier than never ending buckets of chips and much cheaper.

    Les Chalets is good and very convenient to the Falls Creek Express. Apartments in the Bowl are also good, Snowski, Alpine View, Cummings and handy for the Eagle chairlift, Summit Chair.

    Hope you all have a great time.
     
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    Fill up with diesel in Mt Beauty as both service stations only stock alpine diesel over the winter months. Make sure that your tank is not full when you get there. The Caltex in Myrtleford also has alpine diesel if you are too low to get to Mt Beauty. Just a little planning ahead as you head up the Hume to make sure you are at least down to about 1/4 tank when you hit Mt Beauty (or Myrtleford).
     
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    Thanks, will do!
     
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    Thanks, more food to my list! I am definitely going with an apartment The cost difference id HUGE! Have you ever heard of Mini ? I don't know if it's a apartment block.
     
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    a lot of people like apartments, and maybe that will suit you, but you really should consider a lodge as well. some of the advantages are
    *you can relax and not worry about getting brekkie and dinner - or doing the dishes
    *you can socialise with other guests in the lodge, including while kids are in bed
    *if there are other kids in the lodge that week then they will have ready made playmates
    *there will be a big common room, giving kids more room. rooms at the snow are typically pretty small.
    *you are more likely to meet people that you can ski with too

    if you are worried about whether you will want to ski for 7 days in a row, there is another alternative. stay in mt beauty for a longer time and drive up on days that you want to ski. off-mountain accommodation is a lot cheaper and you have a lot more options if the weather is horrible or you need a rest day. on non-ski days you can walk, bike, tennis, horse ride, go for drives eg beechworth, bright, rutherglen.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Thanks currawong, food for thought!
    I have looked at the lodges but they will cost me a lot more $$. I do like the idea of them but it comes down to cost. It looks like a lodge will cost me nearly $2000 more than an apartment for a 7 day stay. That will include all food but I think I can put that money to better use;). I have only gotten a couple of quote so maybe I could get a cheaper lodge? I'm still waiting for some replies.
    I am dreading driving up the mountain so I wouldn't fancy doing it every day so staying in mt beauty is a no,no!
     
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    Relax, it isn't a difficult drive. Take the road at your own pace. If you are moving at a slow speed, and you see traffic banking behind you, wait until you spot a clear space kerbside, indicate and pull over to the side of the road, and allow others to pass.

    Enjoy the journey up, the scenery is splendid. Look upon it as a leisurely drive.

    BTW, I haven't seen mention of when you plan on going.
     
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    Thanks for the advice snowduck, pulling over might be a good idea. I'm already a pretty slow driver and I will be doing snails pace on the mountain. ATM we are looking at a week July 24 and another week end of August!
     
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    You might consider staying in Bogong Village - a mush shorter drive as it is half way up the mountain & offers reasonable self contained accommodation.
     
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    Mini flats are in Parallel st, access isn't great unless you are all reasonably proficient skiers.
    Have a look at Mountain Multiservice if nothing appeals there Snowski are very reasonable..
     
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    Yeah, it looks a bit difficult for access for the young-ones! Maybe when we all can actually ski;) I think I have a place in Les Chalets!
     
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    Ammer, if you want more detail on driving up the mountain see this page http://www.kiewaview.com.au/traveling_to_falls.htm

    Since you are nervous about driving up the mountain then maybe it is a good plan to get a flat on-mountain this season and drive up. When you see that the drive was a lot easier than you thought especially with the vehicle you have then you can consider saving more with accommodation in Mount Beauty in a future season. With lift and lesson prices now about seven to ten times the cost of daily accommodation cost in Mount Beauty the strategy to stay in Mount Beauty for an extra couple of days but only ski the best weather and snow days is a good strategy like currawong suggested. Once you have done the drive from Mount Beauty a few times it becomes easy. With a normal car you do not have to fit chains very often to Falls, but with an AWD like yours it is relaxing to know you will never have to fit them.
     
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    well, almost never
     
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    True Currawong there is always the exception (Why you must carry chains), but for practical purposes in this discussion never is realistic.
    I have been driving into Falls Creek since about 1969. And for many years no one used chains. I cannot recall a single day when I could not get into Falls in a two wheel drive without chains. It is a matter of experience with snow driving. I have done a fair amount of driving in the USA and Europe on snow covered roads without chains. I have an AWD now but for many years I had a 2WD with LSD and winter tires and had no problems. Before I had a LSD I had an ordinary 2WD and snow grips. Snow grips are pretty useless but because they needed more snow to work properly and only took seconds to put on, they let you wait until you started to slip. I used to get into the Gully car park without slipping so did not put them on. A couple of times when they realised that I had not put them on they made me put them on drive back to Howmans and drive back up again.
    Other than the icy dip before the turnback hairpin and turnback itself the real risk with AWD is if it gets icy late in the day coming down. Even with ABS and stability control you may be smart to put chains on a AWD.
     
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    i've been driving subies up to FC for >20 years and have used chains occasionally. if you have to stop it can be very hard to get going agian if you have a solid pack of icy snow on the road. doesn't happen often, but it does happen. I think the relative lightness of the awds makes them bite less into the surface. if i'm by myself i'm more likely to put them on just-in-case because i don't have anyone to give me a gentle push. one time i had to put chains on to get from gully carpark to slalom st carpark.
     
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    Thanks for the advice, I have booked on mountain in Les Chalets for 1/8/11 ..can't wait! Next time I might look at Mount Beauty to lower the cost if the drive is ok;)
     
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    You are making me nervous AGAIN!!! LOL!
     
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    ammer, just to restore some driving confidence for you...during the last storm cycle there was not a time when you needed to fit chains to 4WD/AWD. Carry your chains, but relax and enjoy.
     
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    That said, I saw a Honda CRV slide into a bank last night, and then slammed by the car that was following too closely. Happened just above Howmans. Road was a little slippery, but nothing too bad, if taken with caution.

    Speaking on accomm choices - stayed in a "budget" room at Silverski. $307 a night. Naked light globe, covered in tinsel and cobwebs in the corners. Breakfast was cereal, canned spag, and bacon. Perhaps that is all one should expect from a budget room.