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Discussion in 'New Zealand' started by KL., Jun 25, 2016.
Where's the snow?
Looks like it is currently in Australia...
Just need a heli and theres heaps
Isobel glacier yesterday apparently.
Apparently you can have a wedding arranged on the Isobel.
But of course that money would be far better spent on a few days heli-skiing instead.
That's about the current state of things, it would appear... >2000m, maybe >1700m
NZ just had the hottest 6 month 1st half year period on record. Feb, May and June were all hottest on record this year. Previous record hottest June was 2014. Feb was 2nd hottest month ever recorded in NZ.
How long do we have before almost every month is hottest on record ?
We are all doomed !
Interesting, so, NZ is causing the global warming/climate change! It must be the huge population of people in NZ, that incredible amount of free fresh water that costs heaps, and free hydro-electricity that costs a fortune! Lets hope July is cold, snowy, and good skiing... think snow, you never know
From tomorrow onwards things are looking better. some interesting weather to come!
sounds good, really, really good
I hope you're right. We're 3.5 weeks out from arriving in Wanaka so hopefully there will be plenty of base building done by then. Just need a couple of decent storms ....
I hope so too. I will be there 30 July.
This chart looking promising:
Look at the wind direction though, strong northerly winds following behind that front. Chances are it will be too warm and it will fall as rain unfortunately.
F**k those northerlies!
Most of that air looks like its coming up from the south though. 10 days out these charts are always pretty inaccurate
Agree. Had a look at Metvuw myself and it appears the winds swing to the south after those initial northerly winds. Could be a bit of pre-frontal rain but that period after is worth keeping an eye on.
It's a long way out, and the models really aren't working well for NZ this winter, as @Centago alluded too. I can't help but wonder whether some of the initial conditions are diverging well away from reality currently, given the anomalous state of many things currently.
looking promising for early next week on snow-forecast.com for TC. Fingers and toes crossed now!!
Sounds good, how much do you think and where will the snow fall?
Been a while since I've seen 150cm+ forecast
Wow, at least a metre, that is great and should be interesting
fingers and toes crossed!!!!
Treble Cone will go from zero to hero in 24 hours on that chart.
I don't see any red or yellow on the maps
Looks like Telestrom's maps have updated since he posted them and the 2 metres + snowfall forecast for the Southern Alps is now out of their range. This is the follow up on Sunday. Incidentally Ruapehu is going to do very well out of this too, maybe 50 cms by the weekend.
Sounds good, Ruapehu needs at least 50cms and down to at least 1400m but 2m+ for the Southern Alps sounds stunning. That is a lot for a couple of days of snowfall...
We just returned from QT, talk about awful timing. Massive effort by Remarks and Cardrona to even be open, something Coro and Treble could not do while we were there. On the Tuesday, Remarks broke their record for the largest attendance ever on a single day, a record which had been set the day before as well. Not a record you want to be set, and then broken when you are at the slopes. We were lucky in one respect that our 2 year old was pre booked into care at Remarks, as a lot of the parents who had their kids booked at Coro could not get them into the Kiwikids centre at Remarks. On Wednesday, our last ski day, the crowd was much smaller, and we had a great day. We figured everyone just got jack of the crowds on Tuesday and didn't come up the hill.
Oh well, these are the disadvantages of being married to a teacher. We need to rally the Government to push School Holidays back to August.
What also sucked is that it is going to be a hard sell in the future for those who came with us to NZ for the first time, they really didn't see what a season can be. It made Perisher look amazing. I like Perisher too, but last year at Treble Cone in mid-late August was up there as one of the best few days skiing I have ever had. The wife stayed home for that one.
I guess the other advantage is that there is no shortage of things to do in Queenstown, which meant the holiday was still a good one. Would hate to have had to fill that much time in Jindabyne!
Yes I know what you mean. Some people ask me is NZ better to ski than Aus and I say it can really depend on the season, as this one is proving, so far at least.
Still, nothing in Aus matches that day you describe at TC, I've had my share of those in a number of NZ fields (never enough yet, of course!).
Not sure if this is worthy of a new thread but I wanted to know everyones opinions too.
What is the best ski resort in NZ?
Obviously it depends what you want to do.
The powderhounds website has the following list:
Best overall New Zealand ski resort 1: Mount Olympus, Roundhill,Treble Cone
Best New Zealand powder skiing 2: Mount Olympus, Craigieburn,Temple Basin
Best snow: Craigieburn, Temple Basin, Mount Olympus
Most uncrowded: Mount Olympus, Mt Dobson, Ohau
Best lifts: Cardrona, Treble Cone, Mt Hutt
Piste trails: Treble Cone, Mt Hutt, Cardrona
Off-piste: Mount Olympus, Craigieburn, Roundhill
Child friendly: Cardrona, Roundhill, Porters
Value for money: Craigieburn, Roundhill, Ohau
Nightlife: Mount Olympus, Turoa, Temple Basin
Other Best NZ Skiing / Snowboarding (Powderhounds Awards)
Best overall terrain: Treble Cone, Craigieburn, Mt Hutt
Best beginner ski resort: Cardrona, Mt Dobson
Best intermediate terrain: Mt Hutt, Coronet Peak
Best advanced terrain: Craigieburn, Treble Cone
Best expert slopes: Craigieburn , Mt Olympus
Extreme terrain: Craigieburn, Mt Olympus
Best off-piste: Craigieburn Ski Area
Best backcountry: Craigieburn, Broken River
Best uncrowded slopes: Mt Lyford, Roundhill, Hanmer Springs
Lift infrastructure: Mt Hutt, Coronet Peak
Best terrain park: The Remarkables, Cardrona
Best powder: Craigieburn, Broken River , Mt Olympus
Highest likelihood of freshies: Ohau, Hanmer Springs
Easy on the hip pocket: Mt Dobson, Roundhill
Best family resort: Cardrona, Whakapapa
Best New Zealand Heli Skiing
Top heli skiing: Harris Mountains Heliski
Best après: Queenstown / Wanaka
Best nightlife: Queenstown
Best selection of restaurants: Queenstown
Nice list but it is now snowing which is much better
Wow, looks like I've got to get to Craigieburn, it sure shows up a lot.
But what about the category of 'Best skiing on an active volcano'?
Seriously, I'm a 'high intermediate' who has skied Whakapapa, Turoa, Mt Hutt, Ohau, Mt Dobson, Roundhill, Treble Cone, Cardrona, The Remarkables and Coronet Peak, most more than once, who likes groomers and doesn't enjoy nut crackers (primitive rope tows).
It’s hard to pick my favourite overall but I think I’d say Whakapapa, if only you could be guaranteed of not have 3 closed days in a week!
Otherwise, Treble Cone is challenging, Cardrona is soooo cruisy and Mt Dobson & Roundhill are soooo uncrowded.
I definitely have to get to Craigieburn
A move to Christchurch definitely looks appealing given all the options to ski within a 2hr drive
My best days in NZ have been been at TC, knee deep pow down lines from the summit ridge, hollywood bowl and into the chutes. Best lifts??? no way. I think the poor lifts and lack of gentle pistes keeps alot of people away. But its one of the biggest areas in NZ by the acre
Have skied heaps at Whakapapa and the terrain is great but I've never had anything like the snow quality you can find in the south island. And as you mentioned.... the weather issue....
Looking forward to Ohau and Roundhill in August.
Mt Dobson is worth a look to, if you are in that area, as we found out last year:
(Oh, I just realised you've read that already, sorry about that).
Now that is looking better and more to come
heavily distorted polls results
reads like only Cantabs voted
best try them all and muyom
people froth on the clubbies because they might have gone when it was good and they think its always good...
I dont get the hype myself...
& whoever wrote it up ran out of fuel before reaching TB
Yeah if there's one worth frothing over it's TB. When it's on, it's insane. When it's not, it's an awesome place to drink pass and talk shit. Unless you work for Jeremy Jones.
Its there in "Readers reviews" - "best powder skiing" , "best snow", "best nightlife"
Still if you want highest % chance of untouched lines they probably fill that niche. regards of the conditions or facilities
Any ski resort in NZ has untouched lines. the clubbies are only good because no one goes there. they arent approachable to your average blue run skier so they dont draw a huge market. thats why they are tiny, ghetto and run on the smell of an oily rag.
I went to Broken River. It was boilerplate.
My wife couldn't even get up the rope tow.
Clubbies are a long way off being 'best'. If you hit them on a good day would be fun.
Cubbies have best nightlife???
The clubbies are basically backcountry skiing. If you are ideologically opposed to grooming, believe in Type 2 Fun, hate Vail Resorts, and think good nightlife is sharing swigs of liquor in a tent after a day of mountaineering, the clubbies are Valhalla.
They are not for beginners. They are not for "high intermediates". They are for experts who are bored of standard black runs, obsessed with maximising days on snow for minimal cost, who like to hide away from the world a little bit, and who tend to have little whinges about commercial resort snow report marketing language.
It's also good to remember they are clubs. They're not commercial services, they're a group of mates who decided to build a private ski field, got away with it, and sort of incidentally let you have a go if you really feel like it. So the vibe is maybe a tad unfriendly until you get into it.
And yeah the reason you pay money at a commercial resort is for snowmaking, grooming, and good facilities when the conditions are sub-par, to guarantee your holiday a little bit. At a clubbie they don't really bother, because they're locals and they just wait until it's good.
I was suprised by that too... I was just mentioning temple basin did get rated in there
A bunch of the commercial ski areas started out as club fields (more or less).
Porters, Treble Cone, coronet peak, most ski areas in NZ started out that way. the intention wasnt so much a ski area, they just built huts at places you could ski. lifts came later.
There is a hill south of me that used to be a clubbie..
Would love to get away from Auckland and live somewhere close to a club field. Go when its good.
For now I'm better off flying to Japan and getting 90% hit rate of epic conditions
learning just how superb your backyard fields are is always a good 1st move tho
forecast looking promising for weekend. any reports from TC/Cardrona since last storm? looks ok on web cams