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Which plane has the best business class

Discussion in 'Flights' started by chicski, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. piolet

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    Which one though!?
     
  2. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Qantas Dreamliner. FF points.
     
  3. Kash

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    You wont be disappointed with Qantas 787 business class. Its amazing. I flew the identical design/layout PER-SYD on the A330 a few months ago. One of the best business class experiences I've had - and am comparing to Singapore, Cathay, Etihad and Emirates flights.

    Enjoy - but as someone else noted, if you've never experienced business anything with a flat bed will be great, even an old design 747. The service, food, lounge and drinks on Qantas are great as well.
     
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    You mean FF ripoff. Qantas used to call it a "fuel surcharge" but since the majority of airlines dropped this, it is now a "surcharge" which ONLY applies to award flights. If you must fly with Qantas (supposing that you are able to find one of their scarce as hen's teeth awards), get it with American Airlines miles and save yourself a fortune.
     
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  5. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Meh. I have return business class to USA for less than the price of economy. I’m happy.
     
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  6. travelislife

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    And this is why Qantas gets away with it! Why remove it if people are happy paying it. As an FYI the same thing booked through Virgin is probably $600 cheaper.
     
  7. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Except I have QFF points and not velocity. So it’s a moot point.
     
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    I am just saying that is a choice you have made as a consumer. It is your decision to acquire QFF points, this decision comes with an associated cost impact not many people are aware of until it’s too late.

    As a reference point, I have just booked a return trip to Europe for 2 adults and 1 infant booked directly using Velocity points, flying on Singapore Airlines, all in Business Class. Total fees, approx $350. If I did the same with Qantas points, say booked on Cathay I’d be out of pocket another $2-2.5k most likely.

    So it is a direct decision that has a direct cost impact. Hardly a moot point.
     
  9. Nozawaman

    Nozawaman A Local

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    Not to mention the abysmal attitude by most Qantas staff . I was berated for not printing out a receipt for $500 excess baggage . The checkin staff are not supposed to verify it my phone apparently .
     
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    and @chicski has already stated she is very happy with the informed decision she made as a consumer. So lets just leave it be. We here what you are saying, but not everyone has a choice about what points system they are locked into.

    Congrats to @chicski for booking return business flights to LAX on points, at peak time of the year, on lowest status:) There were plenty of qantas bashers on these forums telling her that would be impossible
     
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  11. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    SFO actually. Avoiding LAX is always good. Couldn’t do that on VA.

    I’ve accrued points by methods other than flying. I might have one or 2 domestic flights annually and o/s has been twice in the last 3 years (once on points). I accrue by using credit cards, targeting shopping and accommodation etc. All money I was spending anyway. So my points are free. I’m not sure that I could accrue points the way I have with any other airline.

    I’ve flown internationally with both Qantas and VA a number of times. I prefer Qantas. But thanks all for your concern.
     
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  12. Ozgirl

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    Yes QFF def makes sense for you (ie your grocery bill... not sure where else you can earn FF pts in your neck of the woods!)
     
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    A 'good deal' is a price YOU are happy to pay.
     
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  14. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I travel a bit for work. Book motel through qantas, get up to 3x spend in points, plus anothe 1x spend for business QFF. Pay with qantas Amex, get at least 1x spend, perhaps more. Lots of petrol too, same thing, woolies petrol gets points, pay with Amex for 2x spend.

    I’m racking up between 5-10k points to per month.
     
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  15. Ozgirl

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    Missed this.

    I meant the other providers (ie Virgin)
     
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    Recently booked our flights (first leg) to Canada.
    Had enough QFF points to snag Melb-SF with PE and Business on the way home. Both on the Dreamliner. Thanks to those that bought to my attention the 303 day out release for the Classic Reward flights. Gonna enjoy this as it might be the only time we’ll get to enjoy the privilege.
     
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  17. jgm

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    Once you've travelled in the pointy end you'll never go back to the rest of the sardines.
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Resurrecting this 3 days before my first ever international business flights. Due to a new job I ended up cancelling last years trip :(

    So about to test the 747 Sydney to Vancouver. And the Dreamliner LAX to Melbourne. Beyond excited. I have a seat upstairs going over, because I’ll never get another chance at that. Can’t wait for my pyjamas and amenities pack. Oh and I’m going skiing ;)

    Pre flight bubbles in the lounge booked with @Ozgirl
     
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    All future long haul travel just got a whole lot more expensive. Once you have been pointy end there is no going back. :D
     
  20. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Will just have to keep churning those credit cards.
     
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    Spot on. Used up about 350k points with our trip to Canada in August, have since churned a card and now back up to over 200k already.
    Enjoy your flight & trip. :emoji_airplane_departure: :emoji_snowflake:
     
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  22. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Flying solo. Still have enough points for another business trip. Need to build some more to take my daughter over next year. She’ll have to go cattle class though LOL

    I swear I’m more excited about the flights than the holiday.
     
  23. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Once you go up the front you can never go back.

    Well to Economy at least

    The 747 is old but you wont get to fly her again so its great and I love the small upper deck

    The 787 is OK but the seat is good
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I expect I’ll have spoiled myself for any future long haul travel. Luckily it coincides with children becoming independent LOL
     
  25. Slalom

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    Kids are small. She'll be fine.
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    She is exceptionally small and no longer a kid. Has no problem sleeping in economy. My 6ft son is extremely jealous.
     
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  27. Ozgirl

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    Weeeeee

    Is now the time to tell you that I realised with this trip I will have been OS 3 times and 4 of those 6 legs have been business class!

    I am on a 747 too. Osaka to SYD was on the brand new b class product. So will compare. More PJs cant hurt :)

    I’m now not working the next few days so will def come chill in the lounge early with you.
     
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    First thing my daughters asked for on return from last trip was, Where are my pajamas .
     
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    oh noes.... cant do rear facing... seat guru (when picking my seat) didn't show that :-(
     
  30. Harper11

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    Unfortunately there is plenty of going back

    and it hurts:D
     
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  31. chicski

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    Qantas isn’t rear facing.
     
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    Good that you are doing the old seats on the 747 first, love the plane and small upstairs cabin but the seats are well past their use by date. You’ll than have a much better seat on the 787 coming back.
     
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    Why can’t do rear facing? Once in the air there is no sensation of moving forward or backwards. It’s actually better for sleeping as the nose of the aircraft has a slight pitch up always. I really enjoyed those seats in the bubble on United as well.
     
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    We've done business in a BA 777, some rear facing seats. Wifey and son liked. I had enough red wine to be untroubled by the lie of my front facing seat.
     
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    my first business flight was a midnight flight HK-CDG, upstairs in a Cathay 747
    got on the plane, typhoon hit and we were delayed on the tarmac for 3 hours
    I slept blissfully through the whole thing on my lie-flat bed, woke up shortly before arrival
    spouse was awake through the storm enjoying the champagne
     
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  36. Ozgirl

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    I will admit it is psychological!
     
  37. Ozgirl

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    Oh yes, I remember reading about a seat/aircraft that you could take off in lie flat!
     
  38. CarveMan

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    Meh. I've flown business plenty but would never pay for it.

    That said I'm starting to accumulate Amex points at a significant clip, maybe by this time next year I might have enough to upgrade the long legs on the Europe trip.
     
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    Its a CUBinfluencer thing increasingly.
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    Meh, I've flown 1st class on both Qantas and Emirates 4 times now - but would never pay for it. Business is different, we pay*. Just booked Sydney to London return.
    AMEX points @CarveMan is your friend. That's how we travel in the pointy end. Also booked Qantas 1st to DFW next December, onto NYC from there for Xmas with the kid. Points balance shot for now.
    *wifey is a princess.
     
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    Yeah I can think of so many things I'd do on the ground with the $5-6k pp difference between paying for economy and business

    I've managed to clock up 440k Amex points in the last 12 months just paying for business stuff that attracts no transaction fees and I haven't paid a cent in interest, I could really ramp that up by adding a few more expenses that do attract fees, need to figure out if it's worth it.

    As the business grows points will be my avenue to the pointy end.
     
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    What did you fly this time?Cathay via HK?
     
  43. cqen2l

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    Yes it is. If you're a Q FF throw everything at it. Get a Q business account, no cost as a FF. Shop Woolworths, Caltex (check specials), David Jones etc.
    Log onto Qantas hack on facebook for tips. Mrs @cqen2l is the the points Queen. Aim for Emirates first, you'll start paying for business class. :thumbs:
     
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    Problem is Q sucks for Europe now that they don't go through Dubai anymore. 1 stop to Milan or Geneva (or Munich or Zurich) can't be beaten. Amex points can go to Etihad where I'm now Silver and I might hit Gold on the way back from Europe as we flew VA to the USA so a few long haul trips adding up.
     
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    They do. As a Q FF you can book a QF flight on EK Metal. Simples. Mrs @cqen2l says hi.
     
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    The issue is to get onto one FF programme and adhere to it, maximise returns as opposed to saving a few bucks on an economy seat on various airlines.
     
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    Yeah... A350 to HK , then 777 to Kansai.
     
  48. Slalom

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    We were the same. As much as we enjoyed the Business experience (as our first time), ain’t no way we dropping that type of coin. It’s points or PE at a stretch.
     
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    I just got back from the US, in economy, with a toddler, and booked more economy fares to Europe last night. It's really not that bad.

    I haven't had what I'd consider a shocking flight for ages, in fact it's been 10 years when I had a horrendous flight on Emirates on an A340 where they retro-removed the footrests so your hamstrings hung on a metal bar, I was in the back row of a section so my seat barely reclined and we were next to the toilet and had people bumping my seat all flight. That was awful but I can't remember another particularly crap one since. I've been flying mainly on 777s with a few Dreamliners & A380s here and there, I reckon they're great planes.
     
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    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Since Dubai was ditched it's close to impossible to get Emirates seats now on QF points..

    Amex points to Singapore Air is your best bet. Far better service and aircraft and seats.

    Points balance getting low so have to start buying 1 seat here and there now :(