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Whole Body as a last resort

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by bawbawbel, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    " I feel that my next big stack will be the end of my skiing days.
    No way will I invite that by trying anything different ! "
    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
    "Bend ze knees !"
    You can bend them and LOCK them and ski all day.
    You MUST bend them to get enough steering range from your hips.
    But, again and again, you get the pain from STRAIGHTENING them, lifting your body against the centrifugal force of the turn to get the next turn started.
    Not necessary.
     
  2. MHzMe

    MHzMe Addicted

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    So does bawbawbel win the prize for the longest running parody account on the internets?
     
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    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    I observe that you favour one leg, no doubt due to ligament damage.
    A perfect candidate for Whole Body.
    But I will refer you to our technical department for a full explanation of it's superiority over your present technique.
    That is because I always try to avoid repeating myself and have you logged as only presenting superficial interest.
    I am fully booked for the Hotham season, which will begin soon.
    But feel free to PM me if The Course is not clear to you.
     
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    I may be favoring one leg, but it was the middle one so I remained evenly balanced.
     
  5. iagreewithhim

    iagreewithhim One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    What's your boot size?
     
  6. MHzMe

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    It’s a family forum and I don’t want to make others feel inadequate, so I will keep that to myself.






    ...and, it all depends on temperature and a range of “other factors” anyway!
     
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  7. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    KL took offense at such denigration (channelling Bawbawbel) as a slap in the face after honest efforts to share his discovery and development of seamless flow and effortless transitions in his ski technique.
    I, on the other hand, welcome it as data indicating the current depth of the commercial brainwashing (equipment specific technique), which continues to make our skiing progress much more difficult and incomplete.
     
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  8. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    This is an easy one. We don't even need to work through our "parody" course because most old "pain and strain" skiers have covered a million miles, all over the world.
    But they are probably still are stuck with upweighting, as an integral part of their "I can ski anywhere" approach.
    Lito Tejada-Flores was the master of anticipated transitions, and that is the way to go. :)
    He diligently followed the PSIA manual to become an instructor in 1960.
    "But something was missing"
    His "Breakthrough" was Joubet's book "Savoir Skier".
    "" Turn your body and the skis will follow"".
    They follow when you STOP turning your body. Is that idea knew tew yew ?
     
  9. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    A strange thing about Lito's "Soft Skiing" :
    He writes of turn initiation by weighting the outside ski, but we can see that he does not actually do that.
    I think that the movie that he WANTED to make is lost to the world.
    Here I demonstrate your Lito exercise. .
    * Do not start your turn by treading from one ski to the other.
    * Do not start your turn by an up/down motion involving your knees.
    * You start your next turn by moving your hand and shoulder across while your edges are still engaged.
    * Weight on both skis, let them float. This produces a cross through rather than a cross over transition.
    * Weight will APPEAR on your downhill ski as you turn across the slope.

    You should still be able to do this on your hundredth .
    Happy Birthday !
     
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    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    His moguls with no knees.
    Yes, please.
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wow, almost good enough skiing to join the Whole Body Demo Team
     
  12. iagreewithhim

    iagreewithhim One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    BS detector is pinging.
     
  13. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    We have not seen any evidence of your bona fides from your postings.
    In fact, just repeating that joke indicates an extremely uncaring attitude to the standard of classic comments on the forum, let alone the objectives of this thread.
    You may even be in the group that would describe The Method as "parody" rather than "alternative".
    So that we may allocate you a technical commentator rating, please post your personal assessment of how Lito manages that smooth mogul run.
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Lol
     
  15. Hermannator

    Hermannator One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    What does the APSI (https://www.apsi.net.au/who-are-we/about-us/) think about that?
     
  16. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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  17. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    This is the least controversial topic imaginable, because we are featuring the solutions of a recognized master of the soft ski.
    Shakes head.
    Maybe it grates with those still living out the hoary gloaries from the time that they were supermen.
    Admit that it now takes twice as long to "do" that double black.
    For my few followers, i better continue.
    Lito is logical.
    His solution to the stiffened leg producing the harsh starting stem of a typical snow warrior is just to collapse the lower leg.
    But he also insists on a momentary pause after that. ("Collapse AND turn").
    It allows time for the stored anticipation to unwind. ("Start the turn properly and the skis will complete it" )
    Stiffening of boots also should be related to your preferred average velocity.
    The real joke around here is watching people who should be skiing in slippers overtightening their "racing" boots.
     
  18. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Level 1 instructors do not need to be members of a local ski school.
    A complete alternative to APSI Level 1 is what we are about.
    Hotham's handpicked private instructors should be able to demonstrate and teach whatever you might request after that.
    Hopefully they will not start you again and reset you back to the dark ages.
    (They are handpicked, we are henpecked, giving them a flying start. )
    (PS Why do i give Southpaw a "like" when he actually gives me a "fail" ? )
     
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  19. southpaw

    southpaw One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Wow, I’ve just discovered this thread and my mind is blown. Reading your posts @bawbawbel reminds me of reading Ulysses by Joyce, didn’t really understand what was going on but was totally mesmerised by it.
     
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    Hermannator One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    How does one find your ski school? Does it have a website?

    Be aware that an alternative ski school was started @ Hotham a number of years ago... It didn't last long.
     
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    absentskier Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    As I have politely tried to explain previously, your problem is that your writings on here are generally indecipherable. I am not saying you don't know how to ski or teach skiing in person, but you have not yet cracked the (admittedly very difficult) code of how to explain your teachings in writing. The only tip I would give is that sometimes 'less is more'.
     
  22. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    It really should have a blog on ski.com.au , but lazy skiing is very miasmatic.
    Lindsay Salmon (built The Drift chalet) would teach, but he was hounded to the point of only being able to take students from his paying guests.
    Chris Cole (50 turns from top to bottom of his Bowl ) never got approval, tried for years.
    Who else ?
     
  23. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks. I appreciate your criticism .
    What is easiest to me is obviously hardest to a student.
    I have thrown away the first chapter of my book three times.
    The last one consisted only of cartoons, ticks and crosses.
    What is everybody, of every age interested in ?
    And why the fascination here with the body movements which are used in Whole Body to torque the skis ?
    Unfortunately, advertising data shows that while any sexy content itself has good retention, nobody can recall what the ad was actually about....

     
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  24. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    To ski the valleys softly, one must follow them exactly.
    "Easier said than done" you say.
    Yes, it is just not possible if you ski the way that you have been taught, using the beginning of the moguls as berms to bring your feet around.
    Clendenin's students are doing that, there is minimal help from the "inside arm forward, outside arm back" windup, which should be a power move.
     
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    Lifes2good One of Us

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    I've tried several times but I simply cannot follow a word of these threads.
     
  26. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    If I were Google I would have your whole profile on tap, with facial recognition number and your preferences in healthy eating. But I am only guessing:
    You ski only for the kids and are here only for social interaction.
    Most who post here are extremely satisfied with their life and accomplishments.
    So why would they proclaim their lack of literacy ? And question mine ?
    It must be "in". By the way, you ski beautifully. :skier::skier::skier::skier::skier::skier::skier::skier:
     
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    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Form follows function. A truly effective skier is not necessarily a classy instagram subject, but they don't care.
    These threads are for them that KNOW that this year's skis on their own won't make a great deal of difference to their ability, and it bothers them..
    So, today's Breakthrough For Yough:
    "Quiet Upper Body" makes sense if we apply it to constrain our excursions in the VERTICAL direction.
    Note the students following Clendenin . Their vertical body movements condemns them to slow motion skiing.
    I was often amazed when, after contemplating a short patch of moguls, Cole Of The Bole would mutter "I can see a way through", and pass through the lot like a shot, just as if they weren't there. :)
     
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    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Different strokes for different folks.
    Linked turns, which is what demos are made of, can be a problem when the terrain is not cooperating.
    That is where the river runners usually become unstuck and start getting unwanted air.
    Top turning needs to be planned, but you decide where and when the turn will happen.
    Freedom freedom freedom oi !
     
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    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cheekildy Flanders.
    Homer then flattens a mogul field with groin intersections.
    See ? You forgot the lot of my most important statement about how copying Interski Demo Dances can actually ruin your valley running.
    My exercise clip shows turns from a traverse, yet only a very small shoulder movement is effective in powering the turn.
    You no longer have to try to time your ski rebound with the slots in the moguls. :)

    Settle down now and try to get these quotes from Clendenin's book into your head:

    * "Most skiers come to us with preconditioned edging skills dominated by the big-toe edge of the outside/downhill ski. To improve, they must learn to let go of their security hold with this dominant big-toe edge "

    * "The transition between turns is really the centerpiece of what we all do as skiers."
     
  31. bawbawbel

    bawbawbel Easi Ski..... Ski Pass: Gold

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    What's in a name ?
    These comments help both the beginner and also the jaded and uncomfortable skiers who have got it wrong for all of their skiing life.
    So "Alternative Instruction" and "Graduate Instruction" are both correct and incorrect.
    "Inspired Instruction" ? No.. invites religious nuts.
    "Superior Instruction" ? Too dogmatic, would invoke screaming responses.

    How about " A Proven Hypothesis Regarding The Introduction Of Expert Skiing At An Earlier Stage" ?