Worth buying bc gear just for use in Aus

wombatskis

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Hey everyone,

Just wanted an opinion on if it is worth it to buy bc gear if I will mainly be using it in Australia, NSW in particular, and will travel overseas (once we can) at least once a year.

I would be using the gear at least 30 days a season.

Cheers.
 

telenomore

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Yes and no. Option 1. Thirty days in OZ I would buy as renting is not cost effective. I'm guessing overseas might be, for example, Japan BC?. in which case, if you buy for OZ as that is where you use the kit most, you could then use the same boots of course and rent some powder boards in Japan or elsewhere.

Option 2 might look like this if you are looking to get a kit for both OZ and OS. Look at something around 100mm underfoot with good sidecut and most importantly, a rockered tip. This can give a good turn radius for OZ conditions and good floaty rocker for OS. Not perfect though so IMO, option 1 would be best.
 

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Hey everyone,

Just wanted an opinion on if it is worth it to buy bc gear if I will mainly be using it in Australia, NSW in particular, and will travel overseas (once we can) at least once a year.

I would be using the gear at least 30 days a season.

Cheers.
So are you skiing 30 days a season OR skiing 30 days BC in Oz in a season?
 
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skifree

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30 days BC I reckon, I ski in bounds most weekends in season.

30 days BC, buy a completely dedicated BC kit, ski boots and poles.

1st rule of BC kit is light is right.

2nd rule of BC, see rule 1.

My comment on bacon, probe and shovel is I have the kit, I rarely carry it. If I really rooly feel the need to carry it's a sign to ski somewhere else or some other time.

Japan BC, beacon, probe & shovel every time.
 
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Laska Goralska

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I spend about five weekends a year out of the resort, which is a lot less than 30 days. I can't imagine being able to do that if I didn't have my own touring gear. Not sure I get your question, 30 days per year of backcountry skiing is a fair bit and would def justify own gear.

Hell, when I got my own gear the first year I only managed a couple of BC trips for a total of about four days skiing out of bounds. Still felt like money well spent.
 

Scrap

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Definitely not worth it:
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I ski a week each year at perisher with my downhill mates and they still go on about my funny bindings (Dynafit) but my boots are comfy, my skis are light and I can ski anything they can. Plus I don't have to worry about hire stuff not fitting.
Unfortunately I often still have to wait while they hire gear :-(
OS I think having suitable gear of your own is good, the down side is you have to fly with it.
Probe and beacon is easy to take along.
Years ago, NZ guides would not allow telli gear, it had to be AT. I think it went back to guide prejudice, and strangely, Antarctica training???
 

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I ski a week each year at perisher with my downhill mates and they still go on about my funny bindings (Dynafit) but my boots are comfy, my skis are light and I can ski anything they can. Plus I don't have to worry about hire stuff not fitting.
Unfortunately I often still have to wait while they hire gear :-(
OS I think having suitable gear of your own is good, the down side is you have to fly with it.
Probe and beacon is easy to take along.
Years ago, NZ guides would not allow telli gear, it had to be AT. I think it went back to guide prejudice, and strangely, Antarctica training???
I worked with a Swiss guide in the US, this is what he says on his website:

I strongly recommend Alpine randonne equipment for a trip in Europe. My past experience tells me that even an expert telemark skier will struggle and have a hard time skiing with a backpack due to the always-changing snow conditions. The telemark skier is usually slower in downhill skiing, takes more falls and gets tired more quickly.
 
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I worked with a Swiss guide in the US, this is what he says on his website:

I strongly recommend Alpine randonne equipment for a trip in Europe. My past experience tells me that even an expert telemark skier will struggle and have a hard time skiing with a backpack due to the always-changing snow conditions. The telemark skier is usually slower in downhill skiing, takes more falls and gets tired more quickly.
That's because telemarking makes the mountain bigger. Any skier who doesn't Telemark on our puny mountains is a sook.
 

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That's because telemarking makes the mountain bigger. Any skier who doesn't Telemark on our puny mountains is a sook.
I worked with a Swiss guide in the US, this is what he says on his website:

I strongly recommend Alpine randonne equipment for a trip in Europe. My past experience tells me that even an expert telemark skier will struggle and have a hard time skiing with a backpack due to the always-changing snow conditions. The telemark skier is usually slower in downhill skiing, takes more falls and gets tired more quickly.
A not surprising comment from a Swiss guide. I did experience some very anti tele attitudes from guides we met on the Haute Route. I did the Haute Route on tele skis with a group of bum tele skiers and we were far from being gun skiers but had absolutely no problem keeping up with the "Randonees" whatsoever. As a guide in Hokkaido I have had some extraordinary tele customers join me, one group in particular from Norway could out ski pretty much any Alpine Tourer, but they were young and fit. Im guessing the client demographic may play a part in the comments. They are not always young and fit!.
 
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